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18 years ago
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Alex_R;123020
It will definitely be difficult to show.
I can describe a couple of points:
1. The races are very strongly divided in terms of development... as a result, there is a greater dependence of the army on the hero and vice versa... for example, the point of making a "non-native" hero strong is lost.
2. More complex calculations of magical action - slightly off-putting.
3. ATB scale - a great idea, but not for everyone (see point 2)
P.S. In general, it seems to me that the balance in the 5th game depends more on luck than on skill, although I haven't played it much yet, so I might change my opinion :)

Well, regarding the first point, I agree with you, but I never make a non-native hero strong, so it doesn't bother me. Regarding the second point - it's just more interesting. The third - I agree. In my opinion, a lot depends on skill here. Play more, you might like it.
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18 years ago
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I think a lot depends on skill here. Play more, and you might like it.
Well, I'm planning to get seriously into Heroes 5 soon... especially online. I already have one person who I promised to play with, so maybe you can be my second opponent... ;)
P.S. But I'll probably stop playing Heroes 3 only when I stop using the computer altogether (it's an addiction) :)
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18 years ago
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Well, I'm planning to get back to Heroes 5 soon... especially online... I already have one person who I promised to play with, so maybe you can be my second opponent... ;)
P.S. But I'll probably stop playing Heroes 3 only when I stop using the computer altogether (addiction) :)

You should definitely try it! I'm afraid we won't be able to play Heroes 5 together because of my internet connection. And I'm not your opponent in online games anyway. I won't give up Heroes 3 either. We can play Heroes 3, but I have connection problems.
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18 years ago
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Why isn't it captivating? Many people would disagree with you. I'm one of them. I found it captivating. And if a game is captivating and has good graphics, is that a bad thing? I like it.
Well, because Heroes 5 is like Heroes 3, only much worse. I didn't like how they made the game at all. They added unnecessary things, which complicated the game and made it uninteresting (but I'm not going into details). And in general, after 10 turns in Heroes 5, you just want to quit. It gets boring very quickly – there's no action at all; they completely removed it (is it even possible to capture 3 castles in 3 days in the fifth part? – unlikely). In Heroes 3, everything is simple and brilliant, and it's fast-paced.
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18 years ago
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....And in general, after 10 turns in Heroes 5, you just want to destroy everything :) It gets boring very quickly - there's no action, it's been completely removed (can you really capture 3 castles in 3 days in the 5th part? - unlikely). In the 3rd Heroes, everything is simple and brilliant, and it's fast :)
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: And in the 3rd game, was there action at every turn?!?! This is a TURN-BASED STRATEGY, what kind of action are you talking about???
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18 years ago
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It will definitely be difficult to show. :)
I can describe a couple of points:
1. The races have been divided much more in terms of development... as a result, the army is highly dependent on the hero and vice versa... for example, there is less point in making a non-"native" hero strong.
2. More complex calculations of magical effects - this is a bit off-putting.
3. The ATB scale - the idea is great, but it's not for everyone (see point 2).
P.S. In general, it seems to me that the balance in the 5th game depends more on luck than on skill, although I haven't played it much yet, so I might change my mind. :)
1. Each race has become more individually expressed, which is more of a plus than a minus. (My friend almost always plays as the Order and takes a Demon, which is actually not bad.)
2. Everything has become more well-thought-out:smile20:
3. I agree, but this is also more of a plus:smile20:

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Well, I'm going to start playing Heroes 5 soon... especially online.... I already have one person who I promised to play with, so maybe you can be my second opponent... ;)
P.S. But I'll probably stop playing the 3rd game only when I stop using the computer altogether (addiction). :)
As soon as I have the opportunity, I will gladly play with you:smile02:
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18 years ago
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Play HoMM 3? Why??? There's HoMM 5!!!!!!! :smile13:
Alex_R
P.S. In general, I think the balance in HoMM 5 depends more on luck than on skill, although I haven't played it much yet, so I might change my opinion.
You're wrong... :) I had to play in several tournaments on the League, and I'll say that the main thing is skill, and luck accounts for a maximum of 40%...
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Well, because the heroes in HoMM 5 are the same as in HoMM 3, only much worse.
I didn't understand your train of thought, where did you find the difficulties? :) If you want action, play CS, Half-Life, and Doom, not Heroes...
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18 years ago
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In my opinion, the fifth game is pretty good, the graphics and everything, but I still prefer the third one. And I think the fourth one is a disgrace to the whole series; I played the first one longer, even though I saw them after the fourth.
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18 years ago
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I play the 5th game, but I still remember the 3rd, and I think that in Heroes 5 version 3.0, they added the best elements from the 4th game. So, in the next game, they should combine all the best features from the entire series (the graphics of the 3rd game with the unpredictability of the 1st).
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18 years ago
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I play the 5th game, but I don't forget the 3rd, and I think about how to add the best features from the 4th game to the 5th game. In the next game, they should combine all the best features from the entire series (the graphics of the 5th game and the unpredictability of the 1st game).
The 3rd game with the graphics of the 5th game is no longer the 3rd game:)
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18 years ago
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For me, the action in turn-based strategy games (specifically Heroes 2 and 3) involves using spells like Portal to Town, Dimension Door, Fly, Walk on Water, View Air, and View Land, among others. These are spells that are almost essential for effective gameplay. The most impactful spell is definitely Dimension Door. With it, you can traverse the entire map, capturing Castles – that's what makes Heroes 3 and 2 such great games. You can truly dominate! (But that's just one of the many positives in these amazing games). In Heroes 5, you can't really "dominate." Moreover, the game can end abruptly and unexpectedly. For example, an elf might appear with four creatures from your faction, and they become your sworn enemies. This is what really surprises me. Or, what kind of Castle is this Dark Elf Castle, or whatever it's called? It has the strongest creatures, and it's obvious. At least, that was the case before the expansions. I don't know anything about the Dwarf and Orc factions. Maybe something has changed. There's no desire to play such a boring game. In Heroes 4, there was a lot of new content, but most people didn't like it. And in Heroes 5, everything is the same as in Heroes 3, only worse (except for the graphics). Since Heroes 3 is a cult classic, people liked Heroes 5 more than Heroes 4.
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18 years ago
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For me, the action in turn-based strategy games (specifically in Heroes 2 and 3) is the use of spells like Portal to Town, Dimension Door, Fly, Walk on Water, View Air, View Earth, and a few others. That is, spells without which it is almost impossible to play. Well, the biggest action is, of course, the Dimension Door spell. With it, you can run around the entire map, capturing Castles – that's what makes Heroes 3 and 2 such great games. In them, you can REALLY play! (but that's just one plus, and there are so many more in these great games)
In the 5th part, you can't really "play." Moreover, the game can end abruptly for no reason. For example, when some elf comes along and has 4 creatures of your race that are sworn enemies. This is what really surprises me. Or what is this Dark Elf Castle, or whatever it's called? It has the strongest creatures, it's obvious. At least, it did before the expansions. I don't know anything about the Dwarf and Orc races. Maybe something has changed. There is no desire to play such a boring game. In the 4th part, there was a lot of new stuff, but most people didn't like it. And in the 5th part, it's all the same as in the 3rd, only worse (except for the graphics), and since Heroes 3 is a cult game, people liked Heroes 5 more than Heroes 4.
1. You have a perverted idea of action:confused:
2. You have a perverted idea of "ruling":D
3. Your inability to play the 5th game shouldn't be a reason to say that the game is bad.
4. Regarding elves and sworn enemies: firstly, what is the chance that before meeting your hero, the enemy will gather the required number of "your" creatures? Let's not speculate on "if" and "what if."
5. You contradict yourself. First, you say that the 3rd game is great, then you write that the 5th game sucks and equate it to the 3rd, only with new graphics:confused:
P.S. Have you ever looked at the "unit cost" graph?
My advice: take a closer look, and you will understand what is wrong with the Dark Elves.
P.S.S. The Tower in the 3rd game is also an expensive Castle, and the creatures in it are strong. But no one really complains;)
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18 years ago
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PaXaRb, I support you in everything! I think the same! Besides the graphics and the "Tribes of the East" expansion, there's nothing else good! I still play Heroes 3 because it's more interesting, even though the graphics are inferior, but the cities are very beautiful, and the battles are at a high level! And I've been playing Heroes 3 for 7 years now, and I know that there's nothing better than this game yet. It's a pity that the company went bankrupt... We can only guess what they would have created if the company hadn't collapsed... HEROES 3! ROCKS!
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18 years ago
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PaXaRb, I support you in everything! I think the same! Besides the graphics and the "Tribes of the East" expansion, there's nothing else good! I still play Heroes 3 because it's more interesting, even though the graphics are inferior, but the cities are very beautiful, and the battles are at a high level! And I've been playing Heroes 3 for 7 years now, and I know that there's nothing better than this game yet. It's a pity that the company went bankrupt... We can only guess what they would have done if the company hadn't gone bankrupt... HEROES 3! ROCKS!
+1, see the points in the previous post above;
The fact that Heroes 3 exists doesn't mean that Heroes 5 is bad.
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18 years ago
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personally, I think Heroes 5 is terrible! I will always play Heroes 3!

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