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THIRD OFFLINE HEROES 4 TOURNAMENT " Saving Angel "

1. To participate in the third offline Heroes 4 tournament « Saving Angel », you must register on our website and leave an application in this thread.

P.S. This tournament is held as part of the general Van Kanigem tournament, therefore all information, as well as its progress and results, will be displayed in that section.

This stage of the tournament is rated.




2. The tournament is played on the Russian version of Heroes 4: Winds of War by Buka. The save will be generated on the Russian version.

3. Game Goal – defeat the enemy.

The result will be evaluated primarily based on minimum time.
If several players have an equal completion time, the winner will be determined by points; if a favorite is still not determined, then by the amount of mercury.

4. Tournament Rules.

1) It is forbidden to use cheat codes during the final run of the save.

2) It is forbidden to restart or perform any other modification of the initial save.

3) Use of the "space" key.

3.1. Use of the "space" key is FORBIDDEN when boarding a boat.
3.2. Use of the "space" key is FORBIDDEN when disembarking from a boat to shore.
3.3. Use of the "space" key is ALLOWED when pulling a killed hero (grave) out from under monsters.

4) Bugs - SaveBag

4.1. Shifting monsters using saving - FORBIDDEN.
4.2. Additional hero upgrades related to saving - FORBIDDEN.
4.3. 65000 arrows for Elves using saving in battle - FORBIDDEN.
4.4. Digging up the Grail - e.g., visiting all idols, finding the burial place of the Grail, then loading a "good" save and attempting to dig up the Grail without visiting idols - FORBIDDEN.

5) Bugs - SinglBag

5.1. Overcoming obstacles on land, i.e., when dragging units with the mouse from upper slots to lower ones, they end up, for example, behind bushes that are normally impassable (the player does nothing forbidden, uses the mouse; during this operation, units lose some of their movement).
ALLOWED.

5.2. Overcoming obstacles when disembarking from a boat to shore, i.e., landing on shore without an indication that landing is possible (the anchor is not visible on the shore), again done with the mouse; units' movement is reset (space is obviously forbidden - see point 2).
ALLOWED.

5.3. Upgrading hero graves using a Thief. Upgrading hero graves using Grandmaster Stealth.

TARGETED upgrading of a grave in this manner is FORBIDDEN.

NON-TARGETED upgrading of a grave in this manner is ALLOWED.
You must provide a reasoned explanation as to why you were forced to accidentally upgrade the grave and why it was unavoidable.

5.4. Upgrading graves using ordinary units on attack, defense, or speed crystals (sapphires) in battle, or increasing magic points.
FORBIDDEN.

5.5. Units carrying a grave are allowed to visit stables, oases, wells, and other objects that increase movement points.
Therefore, EVEN TARGETED transport of a grave through these objects is ALLOWED.

5.6. Use of a hero's spellbook by the hero's grave on the adventure map.
FORBIDDEN.

6) It is forbidden to use "completely Dead-end external dwellings" on the battlefield.
(I will explain in more detail for those who don't understand. I consider a "Dead-end external dwelling" to be a COMPLETELY closed area, for example by rocks or logs, which contains
a small island for a unit, such as a fairy, harpy, vampire, etc.
That is, a place that cannot be entered on land by a unit of the smallest
size (3x3) and can only be reached by air—a kind of natural fortress). Having such an external dwelling, one fairy could beat a hundred Black Dragons and win an impossible battle; to prevent such situations, I forbid "Dead-end external dwellings" in this tournament.

7) Discussion of the tournament on the forum during its progress is FORBIDDEN!!!
(Players who violate this rule automatically disqualify themselves from playing the tournament; their results will not be counted and will be annulled).

8) EVERYTHING ELSE IS ALLOWED.
(unlimited number of heroes on the map beyond eight, and so on).

A "non-dead-end external dwelling", or more accurately a semi-open one, is allowed in this tournament.
By semi-open external dwelling, I mean a place that a unit or Hero can
Enter on foot, while the attacking monsters, regardless of their size, must be able to reach the Hero or unit to strike them (the point of a Semi-open external dwelling is to limit the number of monsters attacking you simultaneously). Besides, it's not proper for a Hero to hide in an external dwelling while the enemies waste themselves on whatever. Our Heroes fight with open visors.

9) The player is required to save intermediate saves for each game day during the tournament run.
Intermediate saves may be requested by the tournament leader to verify the honesty of the run. If the use of cheat codes, or errors and game features explicitly forbidden in the rules, are detected, the player will be immediately excluded from the tournament.
It is also necessary to save controversial battles (e.g., a hero and a fairy against 100 dragons) so that the honesty of the victory in the clash can be verified.

10) Along with the final save, players are required to send a description of the final battle tactics (the more difficult the battle, the more detailed).
If the win depends on morale\luck rolls\specific actions of computer players, a full description of the battle is required—one that allows it to be repeated.

11) Send the final save to the email address Lu41k@yandex.ru. The sent save must contain the tournament number (3), the participant's number in the application table, the abbreviation (SA « Saving Angel » ), and the player's Nickname. Example: 3_1_SA _Lu41k.h4s

12) The tournament starts on October 1 and will last until October 31 (inclusive). The result will be announced on November 6, 2007.

13) After receiving your save, you will see in the application table that:

the save is accepted - indicated by a Bold Nickname

This list can be added to by new participants!
We invite everyone to take part in the tournament!


Saves will only be considered from players who are in this table, so make your applications IN ADVANCE!!!

PARTICIPANT LIST
NUMBERPLAYER NICKNAME
1 Lu41k
2 :( Starhan :(
3 vbn
4 BigAke
5 IronAxe
6 Undergrounder
7 Arandor
8 :( Kamikaze :(
9 General ZeT
10 ZYbr
11 midzhajj
12 SandroXXL
13 Brackman
14 :( StormS-K:(
15 LeSHiJ-Max
16 Fireball
17 Romanuel

Everything about the starting save


1. Download the save.

2. The downloaded save must be placed on your computer in the GAMES folder of the installed Heroes 4.

3. Load it and start playing at any time convenient for you, while remembering to make daily saves.

4. After reaching the final action (after which victory occurs), save again.

5. With the final save, describe this last step in detail (most likely a battle); then the results will be processed faster and there will be fewer suspicions of cheating!!!

6. A full description of the tournament map is encouraged (optional). If such descriptions are provided, a contest for the best description will be held; 10 of them (the very best) will take their place of honor in the "Hall of Fame" section!

7. Send this save to the specified address (in the rules of this tournament).

8. Wait for the results.

P.S. The map "Saving Angel" was taken from www.heroesportal.net, author Kolizey.

I wish all participants enjoyment of the game, a good time, and of course GOOD LUCK!!


With respect, tournament organizers Lu41k and Magnus!
P.P.S. We express great gratitude for help in organizing the tournament to Alan, Kyle, and Pandora! Thank you very much!!!!

ATTENTION all tournament participants!!!! The map and save have been replaced!!! Therefore, I ask you to download the new, edited version of the map and naturally the new save for it!!! Once again, I apologize for this incident and hope for your understanding!



- Changed October 5!


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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Check out the descriptions of the leaders from the previous tournament))) Or ask our monsters to help you)) ;)


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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Kamikaze;120613
Ah... and I was already hoping! After all, it's the battles that are interesting to watch, and logistics is a different topic. In the fourth game, the battles are very original, so I would gladly watch how the leaders defeat seemingly invincible hordes of monsters! :smile39:
The logistics video in the fourth game should be watched with the goal of then requesting the corresponding save file from the player before the battle you are interested in. After that, you will have to figure it out yourself and ask for verbal explanations of the battle tactics. There is nothing better you can do here. :)
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IronAxe;120681
The logistics in Heroes 4 are best understood by watching a video, and you should do so with the goal of then requesting the corresponding save from the player before the battle you're interested in. After that, you'll have to figure it out yourself in the battle and ask for verbal explanations about the battle tactics. There's nothing better you can do. :)

Well, I don't know... Why only verbal?
I've long made it a rule to save all saves from a playthrough, including those from battles. Sometimes there can be several dozen meaningful saves in a battle until the situation stabilizes. But then you can always go back to the step where you made a mistake or were unlucky.

It's a pity that people are usually interested in saves that aren't mine. :smile39:
I am not useless - I can be used as a bad example!
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Dear Lu41k and Magnus, please add me to the list of tournament participants.
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Well, I don't know... Why only oral descriptions?
You can recreate the walkthrough of this battle by loading from a save before the attack and following the detailed description of the battle tactics. That should be enough.
Undergrounder;120683

I've made it a rule to save all my game progress, including battles. Sometimes there are several dozen meaningful saves in a battle, until the situation stabilizes. This way, you can always go back to the step where you made a mistake or had bad luck.
I agree that's the way to do it. Such saves can also be useful for verification.
Undergrounder;120683

It's a shame that people are usually not interested in my saves. :smile39:
But if you organize tournaments for Heroes of Might and Magic IV here, I'm sure people will be interested in your saves.
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Ah, I was already hoping! After all, it's the battles that are interesting to watch, and logistics is a different topic. In Heroes 4, the battles are very original, so I would gladly watch how the leaders defeat seemingly invincible hordes of monsters!
Don't worry so much; the map isn't very difficult. It's easier than the 4th stage in terms of straightforward progression. It just looks bad – no troops, no decent respawn, no Solmyr. I'm afraid to even imagine how many days it would take to complete it using "brute force" methods (as I call them). But we'll have to not only imagine it but also see it with our own eyes.
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Romanuel, your number is 17, well, have a great game, good luck, and patience!


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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Today, the tournament took place, and I sent the final save to Alan. I hope no one doubts his honesty and objectivity!!

Alan, please let me know when you receive the save..

I wish all participants good luck, and don't forget about the tournament deadlines)))

Best regards, Luchik!!


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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Save file received.
Тьма - это то, что позволяет смертным не забывать, как ярок бывает свет.
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I finished the map. I sent the save file. I would like confirmation. :smile49:
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BigAke, I confirm that your save file has been received...

midzhajj, since you want confirmation, your save file has also been received))))

Well done!!! We're waiting for the others!!:smile12:

BigAke, midzhajj, thank you for participating in the tournament!!:smile43:

Sincerely, Luchik!


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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Sent the final save file. Waiting for confirmation.
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Fireball, your save has been received, thank you very much for participating))) :)

SandroXXL, your save has been received, thank you for completing the tournament!:smile43:

Brackman, and your save has been received, thank you for participating in the tournament!:smile01:

Sincerely, Luchik!


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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The save is outdated. )

I hope I'll still get last place.

Be strong. Believe

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