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The event that unfolded before my eyes that night pushed me past my breaking point. Despite the dangers that awaited me, I followed the call of my heart and went for a walk through the night city. In one of the dark alleys, I noticed ToX. He was harassing a man whose face I couldn't make out, and with his entire body, he was provoking the man to fight. Then, the stranger pulled a pistol from under his jacket and, in that instant, shot the annoying man right between the eyes. ToX collapsed onto the cold ground, and on his face was a frozen expression of unimaginable surprise – as if to say, "How could this be, someone killed me?", as if he was confident in his invincibility.
In short, the more I think about it, the more I get worked up and start blaming myself, so never mind, let's end this.
We played as we played. I'll draw conclusions from my own gameplay - both during the day and at night.
I really liked the setting, its atmosphere, and its lore, but the descriptions - yes, Revan, that's too harsh. I think the forum still isn't ready for such complex games; three years have passed. I'll repeat once again that it's better to run simple settings so that people don't get tired. Nebo's was amazing.
Okay, how about this: if you don't mind helping me with the mechanical tweaking of a character, I'll jump right into the next expansion and play it properly...
Well, that's something... I didn't think two isolations would happen in a row.
Added 2 minutes later ToX
I still don't understand why Nefela isolated Yashur, whom I would have targeted anyway based on Ment's tip. Yes, in reality, it wouldn't have changed anything, but the logic is still unclear.
She probably blocked "that suspiciously inactive guy," and that's all....
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно. Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится. (Закон сохранения).
I was a bit surprised that Sky went to kill someone on the very first night. Why Nairu? By the way, I was planning to place a bomb on one of the immune players on the first night, and Arandor correctly pointed out why. The choice was limited. I didn't want to target Medzha or Plesen, as they hadn't played in a while. I felt bad about eliminating Yashura, as he had been killed constantly before, and Sky didn't seem very eager to play, so the choice was obvious. It's a shame that I couldn't implement the plan for a double explosion in one night; the targets of the explosives were eliminated on that same night. Plesen turned out to be very generous with talismans, only thinking about himself on the third night. Thanks for the gift, even though it wasn't useful. Medzha surprised me by saving his ultimate ability almost until the very end. Good restraint! I would have used it on the first or second day, while the probability was low that a blocker would interfere. Moreover, I would have most likely used it on Mental, as he was 90% Aulus for me. From the argument between Mental and Heroist, it was clear to me that the real Shizuo was Heroist. But it wasn't beneficial for me to target Mental. Instead of killing Tox, I also considered killing Heroist; both of them had roles that were too overpowered, but I still didn't kill Heroist, as I hoped he would isolate Sky. If there had been a transparent description of Krabby's role during the execution, maybe that's what would have happened.
But I forgot that I am a popular player – and as a result, I didn't do anything for five nights. I still don't understand why Nefela isolated Yashur, whom I would have targeted anyway based on Ment's tip.
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Steals ND from Shendet (not displayed).
Yes, this also reduced your "Shendet-ness." Like, if you want to prove it with an observable action, how does stealing help you?! And the block would have gone through successfully; it comes before the isolation. In general, I didn't know what to think anymore, but in the end, I decided to believe your bluff. After all, you can't be another Mafia member, right? ))) And mana doesn't seem to be placed on you from the first night, so it's also hard to believe that you are persistently pretending to be someone else's town role. And Frag in the chat kept convincing me for a long time not to rule out the possibility that you are lying. Author
Okay, I ruined it, I ruined it. You can blame me for the defeat.
That's nonsense. If you hadn't pitted the Mirks and Negs against each other, like with me and Heroist, it would have been very difficult for the town. You played very well and dangerously, I would say.
Fragment. I initially suspected Ulika because I thought Rafaga would go earlier and might beat me to it. Then I realized I was going first. Also, the description was ambiguous. In the thread, only I and a couple of Mirks were confident about Neyra's role. There was another reason, but I forgot it.
Regarding complex descriptions. I agree with Heroist and Tox, who commented on this. I'll add my own thoughts. There's nothing inherently wrong with complex or unclear descriptions. But saying they were "okay" when several players in the thread, even before their side lost, said they were unclear, doesn't really work. It sounds like: "You guys are just noobs and can't figure it out." Especially considering Yaschur, who mainly plays based on information from the newspapers, without any ontology or anything. And when the information is like that, it's no surprise he got so discouraged. It's strange that I didn't take this into account and marked him as a discouraged Mafia player.
Mafia, you can be offended, of course, but just as random chance buried you in the first two days, random descriptions saved you in the end. I'm not saying you played badly, quite the opposite, you did great in the situation you were in (Mentu probably had a particularly hard time pretending to be a Mir, being a negative). But according to the newspapers, Arandor couldn't have been the main Mafia. Yes, maybe it should have taken 6 or 8 hours to search for clues instead of 4. But I'm not going to spend that much time on Mafia when I have other things to do in real life. It's funny that I didn't even want to play because of events in real life, but once the game started, it got easier. And the Gunslinger role was cool, even though the character was a [censored] who ruined our plans in the expansion. Good thing he died.
Medj and Master played great. It would have been interesting to argue with the latter until the end. He did a great job pretending to be clueless and cleverly snagged the Floria role. It's a shame he didn't win solo. Yes, in this game, a manic killer was preferable. Thanks to the guys who were with me until the end and tried to figure things out. Overall, the game turned out to be great and epic. And even though I don't agree with Revan about the descriptions, I still thank him for hosting, it was fun.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт Небо – угроз не слышит Небо – ведёт особый счёт Небо – тебя найдёт
Also, if I understand the mechanics of enhanced necromancy correctly, the Heroist had a potentially powerful move on the last night – isolating himself. This would prevent us from stealing his vote and would stop the Necromancer (if he were targeting the Heroist), and I double-checked with Revan whether such self-isolation would interfere with Shizuo's preparations from the previous night – it wouldn't. Exactly. That move plus Tox blocking me would have been terrible.Author
Mafia, you can be offended if you want, but just as random events buried you in the first two days, random descriptions saved you in the end.
I'm not offended; I pointed it out myself. Although I hope that my work also played a role (and to a greater extent ;)), and it's also worth noting that pretending to be someone else with the given descriptions is somewhat more difficult. Regarding the clues, the main problem was that... Well, you can link things, but so what? There are many links; they only become decisive when combined with other considerations. That's why I immediately threw in the picture of Napoleon, even though I wasn't yet sure you wouldn't realize that Lo was the killer, and I also genuinely thought it was the second clue (it looked very similar, and it's a well-known picture). So, you figure it out, and then what? Yes, it was bold.) I didn't write anything about you, Nebo, but you also looked good in both parts; it was clear that you were trying. You had a healthy level of aggression.) If you had been a Mana user, would you have been unrecruitable, as I thought? Or not?
I'm a little surprised that Sky went to kill someone on the very first night. Why Nereus?
Nereus for the same reason you tried to frame me. The same applies to Crabbe.
And I killed him with a sharpshooter because it's more fun.
Added 2 minutes ago Ment
If you were a mage, would you be unrecruitable, as I assumed? Or not?
97% chance you wouldn't be recruited.
Added 13 minutes ago Ment
. Regarding the clues, the main problem was that... Well, you can link things, but so what? There are many links, and they only become significant when combined with other considerations. That's why I immediately threw in the picture of Napoleon, even though I wasn't sure you would understand that Lo was the killer, and I also genuinely thought it was the second clue (it was very similar, and it's a well-known picture). So, you figure it out, and then what? Yes, it was a bold move.
Well, there would have been more doubts about the clues, and I would have thought about it 10 more times before writing Arandor as a Necromancer. I initially wanted to react to your Napoleon suggestion and write that it was a Mafia player trying to confuse us. But I didn't, because no one really paid attention to that version.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт Небо – угроз не слышит Небо – ведёт особый счёт Небо – тебя найдёт
Nah, Mент, you're doing great. Even though you lost the duel to Heroist, you still played well.
I'm an idiot because of my indecisiveness; I really should have told Heroist that he's like Shizuo to me, and we could have planned the night better... Oh well.
And I agree with Nebo completely about the descriptions and clues...
Ple-Sen
ToX
