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Heroist
A clean victory for Inar is the best option for true winners, while this is just a victory with a certain aftertaste.
and what if they invited you... would you go?
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stingy
before Ment tried to sabotage me, I would have agreed)))), but not after that.
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Maybe it doesn't sound entirely fair, considering that Heroist and Nebo stayed with me until the end, but I can't help but praise them. Nebo for their diligence with the clues, a good play on the first day, and for remaining calm while the Mafia were stirring up hysteria. And Heroist for getting information from my target and for a confident, clear, and peaceful game in the second half, which was a pleasure to read. The only thing I regret is that I couldn't protect Ples in that round. I had only one choice between him and Heroist; none of the other players, whether active or inactive at that point, deserved my trust, and I intuitively felt that they were most likely to target Ples, especially considering that Analus had already targeted him before, "which means they definitely won't target him again." But if, after that execution, where Heroist played a 10,000% peaceful game in my favor, the Mafia had become so bold that they brazenly killed him the very next night, going against all the mind games, that would have been very sad and terrible. I couldn't allow that, and that was the only factor that made me, with a heavy heart, not go to Ples. But at least it helped me solidify my role. Otherwise, I'm not against the Mafia winning in this case, considering that they played the entire game with a reduced team, although, of course, it would have been better not to add the recruitment mechanic. Thank you all.
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Revan, thanks for the game. Figuring out the actions in the newspapers and describing the executions required some thought, but it ultimately added to the intrigue and interest in the game. And the implicit descriptions somewhat compensated for the difference in the city's strength and the strength of the other factions. I can say that I felt the approach of the moment when everyone would start to clearly reveal their peaceful roles and begin to distribute them, so I tried to play ahead of the curve. Based on the results of the fourth newspaper, I figured that Crabby was most likely Floria, deprived of her Neutral Defender due to Necoran. I chose Floria. I thought that Crabby's inactivity would play to my advantage, and I could compensate for the lack of a Neutral Defender for Floria in the discussion by arguing about isolating someone or preparing for "Inara," clearly indicating a target for execution. But I had to contend with Nebk, whose game I particularly enjoyed in the second phase. I could have led the game to a conclusion based on the city if I had correctly deciphered the clue in the right direction.

Added 13 minutes later
It's funny that I didn't pay enough attention to Neb's post about him going to Morning with a check. But at the same time, while preparing, I also went to him with a check). But I was checking for the second status. By the method of elimination, I was able to determine the only possible role for Morning.
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Alright, let's go into detail.
From the first night, it was clear we wouldn't get off easy. Neyra -- goodbye, Fragment -- was disabled, then became completely disabled. It was obvious that absolutely everyone in this country dislikes the Chinese and the Republicans, and we'd be crushed by everyone together. In principle, this trend continued, right, Medge, right, Master? ) But fortunately, not until the very end.
I enter the thread, enter the chat, say that the worlds are iop and no one blocked me, because Shendet is not the kind of person to just beat someone up in an alley. In the thread, I write that there was a double-isolation -- and from that moment on, I am Shizuo. Actually, maybe it was a strange move to so stubbornly assign myself exactly this role, but I decided that let it be, precisely because it is strange. I love things like that, offense >> defense.
Mathematically, Tox remains an option, I'm not attacking.
Second night -- mdam... At that moment, of course, we felt quite discouraged, but Frag and Neyra in the chat continued to instill hope in us for a good outcome.
Nebok and I got carried away, counting him as Albea (would Alm gamble on a clue against himself? And here it seemed the thread decided that Albea died, and around then Nebo took a fundamentally different position. We still don't know what actually happened there, since Alm couldn't shoot at an isolated Tox)
I attack Tox, as I realize that with Nebok-Alm things get very strange, and Heroist in the thread agrees about the redirected Nebo, meaning it's not my tea's fault. Or Heroist was drinking the same one (well, in principle, yes, our roles are the same).
Third night -- it's a bit of a shame we didn't think to have Arc move in terms of killing. I suggested it, but it was hard to drag Ara anywhere 😅 He is the defensive guy among us.
Fourth night -- oh, we have a kill! And we stopped Tox from moving at night and finding out info about Medge! Great, guys... Hm, wait a second, what is Revan writing in the chat? Wow...
At that moment, I had almost completely lost faith in our victory; that was a strong move, Medge. When Revan asked what we were going to do now, I was like "Well, I'll go to Granblue and start an event, I guesseeeeee."
Fifth night -- alright, we have a second kill. By the way, I was the killer. The description, of course ) I would never have thought it was Lo, I understand you. That played into our hands.
Sixth night -- triumph. I was sure that we would be deprived of either Ara's move or mine, and so I decided to hedge my bets as much as possible. And the voice theft (we took a long time to decide on the target, what if Heroist self-isolates or dies from Inar? We wanted Tox first, it would have been dangerous. In the end, Heroist was left voiceless). And the kill. Specifically Yashura, who would defend Chinax. And we have practically no downsides, although I am dying, but with recruitment we will most likely take a stronger role to our side.
At the start of the day, we hesitated over whom to take, Master or Medge. It seemed to me that both would likely join if Ar hinted in the thread about the situation with our votes, meaning they would be sure it was a victory for them. But there was no certainty that the hint would be understood. In the end, we played the night moves; sorry, Medge, but you shot at us too much ))))) And Master killed Tox at the decisive moment, just as I personally wanted, which was pleasing.
And still, Medge, don't be upset. At the very least, I can say that I was glad to play with you during the day. You did it well, quite peacefully, and maniacs who behave peacefully are my favorite. Also, you would have been recruited if Nebok had been the second man, as Nebok would probably have refused (right, Nebo, or not?)
Tox powerfully took the day into his hands, invulnerable at night, and gave us a hard time.
But still, it pleased me. To take victory like this, playing against so many factors... It's a powerful feeling. On the edge.
Also, every time someone in the thread wrote that the city was like, having a hard time, I nodded along a bit, but inside I was more like this.

(Looking at it now, it's a good series; for those who haven't seen it, I won't tell you what the joke is)

In general. I want to say thank you to absolutely all the players of this mafia, including those I didn't mention. All of you were interesting, intriguing, and this experience in general.
I apologize to Heroist for possibly making them rage (but the experience was too new and interesting for me to give up. Taking away the city's prerogative to reveal oneself as a certain role -- it was just important to try. It turned out, however, that it would have been easier with Aulus, but who knew in advance).
Thanks to Revan.
Thanks to Neyra, for the moral support and partial advice, Frag, for helping in every way and actively, Ara, my daytime companion, whom I may have pressed a little too much on the penultimate day (including in the chat; it was important to me that you dodged the execution well, don't be offended).
Thanks to Master for joining and for sharing this glorious victory with us. You earned your share of the profit.

Victory is ours!!
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before Ment tried to sabotage me, I would have agreed))))
This is interesting, by the way.
I thought that, in any case, the community wouldn't accept it. Except for Haven.
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>I would never have thought that Lo was being killed, I understand you.
mother of the blessed Artery

>I thought that the community wouldn't accept it anyway.
But I was wrong, before I started playing more seriously, the game seemed quite fun.
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How did the game master favor the Chinese players...?
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I could have cast my vote for you when Heroist removed his, but I decided not to. I thought maybe I could recruit you later.
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Oh, and the game is over!

When I got the role, I was extremely discouraged and upset because I wanted to chill as a peaceful character (ideally, as a relative), but then I got a message from Revan saying I was in the mafia. So, thank you, sexist-hater Nebka, for depriving me of that.

After I died, I relaxed, devoted myself to work that would keep me busy until the pre-New Year week, and stopped paying attention to the mafia, occasionally popping in with questions like: "What the heck is going on there? And why did you execute/kill so-and-so?" To be honest, after 2 days, I thought it was over, but fate and Revan's newspapers had other plans, so I can't really celebrate with the guys.

Guys, congratulations to all four of you, you all deserve the victory. I especially want to highlight Ment. He was the most active in the chat (sorry, while working remotely, I only pay attention to the pop-up nicknames from Skype, because I don't have time for anything else), he thought a lot, came up with all sorts of ideas, and had brilliantly crazy plans. I was more than impressed. Frag, Aretz, I love you both immensely, but I'm sorry, this time I'm taking my hat off to Ment. Although, there's an opinion that Frag helped Ment carry the game. Which, remembering our game in the asylum, is quite logical. But still, Ment was a 10/10 for me personally.

Master, we didn't play much together, but you caused quite a stir. When I was skimming through the thread, I didn't want to believe that you were a maniac) So, you also did a great job.

And yes, I want to honestly and fairly note that I'm not claiming this victory for myself, because my contribution was meager and insignificant, and therefore I won't count it towards my own victories.

In short, I want to note that even though everyone started revealing themselves towards the end, my nerves didn't fray. So, thank you to the city, especially for entertaining Tox with its panic, who played quite spiritedly as my relative. It's a pity that Shen will never meet Shendet :с

A special shout-out to Revan for the crazy and confusing newspapers, which caused a lot of frustration for the average player. He confused everyone masterfully! And overall, it was fun)
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Arandor
I could have used my voice to influence you when Heroist removed his, but I didn't. I thought maybe I could recruit you later.
Really, in the last 30 seconds?
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My impressions of the game.
Bad
- I seem to have grown out of running Mafia games, because I slightly overestimated my abilities when creating this setting. What is displayed where, under what conditions things work or don't—it was all very difficult to keep in mind, and I'm still not sure if I messed up somewhere while drafting the newspapers.
- Clues. I didn't bother with starting articles and planned to provide clues that were simple in length but complex in structure, like the first one, but quickly realized that no one was digging in that direction, so I had to return to "standard" ones. After that, I immediately faced the problem that there wasn't much to tie the clues to, so I had to put effort into creating some connection between them without making them too easy to guess. In practice, it turns out I overdid it with the difficulty, but maybe I'm just bad at clues.

Neutral
- Regarding the criticism of the descriptions, despite everything said, I disagree. The only thing I think I added unnecessarily was Medjerson's gloomy expression when describing his isolation in the last newspaper. The word seemed appropriate at the time, and I missed the fact that it could be interpreted as a description of another action. Otherwise, I strictly followed the pre-set keywords; even with Peona's execution description, the first sentence reduced the number of roles to two, and the second hinted at a specific role (and in fact, no one really considered Crabby an ambassador after the execution). Overall, towards the end of the game, all patterns were correctly deciphered, and in my opinion, this can provide its own share of pleasure since there is something to think about, especially when realizing that descriptions aren't given randomly. And then, perhaps a controversial point regarding the description of Nefela's murder—I implied that her heart gave out, as the combination of alcohol and heavy food with a sauna is very unhealthy, rather than poisoning.
- Open play. To be honest, for a very long time I thought Tox wasn't playing entirely by the rules, but at the same time, I couldn't find anything specific to give him a modkill for. By the end of the game, many followed his example, which made me think that perhaps something like this is quite permissible in certain situations. By that point, many were already clearly hinting at their roles, yet players still weren't entirely sure of each other's roles until the end. So it's hard to say what would be better.
- Medjerson signed up just in time, because on that very day I planned to remove Nekoran's role (which Gur had) from the setting so as not to redistribute roles, and adjust some Mafia and town roles (one idea was to give Theodore healing and Albee a survey).

Good
- I liked the atmosphere in the game and the Mafia chat, and I was pleased with the high activity and engagement of the players in the Gameplay. I also liked the plot component of what happened; although there wasn't much opportunity to expand while writing newspapers, if you judge purely by the night and day actions, a very interesting picture emerges + it gave me certain motivation to work on the continuation of the expedition. Otherwise—I hope the players had fun too despite any possible mishaps.

Keywords for describing actions: Block - fatigue/sleepiness.
Isolation - torture/injuries.
Protection - persecution.
Floria's visit - good mood.
Forging orders - mention of the palace.
Black magic - depression.
Secret visit - staged incidents.
Grace - non-contact kills.
Assassination - described any way (before the game started, I planned to do it without any mention in the newspaper at all, simply by moving the player to the corresponding list, but then decided to abandon this idea).

Night logs:



Clues:
Endless Night from Nebo's profile > Agatha Christie:
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Произведения Агаты Кристи стали одними из самых публикуемых за всю историю человечества (уступая только «Библии» и трудам Уильяма Шекспира)
Bible = Cross
Shakespeare = Warwickshire Flag, the county where he was born.
Accordingly, the third shell = Agatha Christie herself.

Uninvited Guests from Master's profile > David Dobkin > I Want You Like This > Ryan Reynolds > Buried Alive

Slumberland from Arandor's profile > TMS Entertainment > Orange

October 30 (Menta's registration date) > Martin's Declaration (no direct link here, but found via October 30 events) > Martin's Coat of Arms


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Overall, Ples, it seems like it's a 50-50 chance for Inar to win solo.
Inar might not have known this, but without Arcs's consent, no one was executed on the last day. I have no idea how to calculate that if it were a No New Votes situation.
We also joked in the chat at the beginning of the game about the triple vote, and how brazenly Ar would act with it if it came to that.
Well, it turned out to be quite brazen.
And I don't understand the issue about the aftertaste... Do you all like to monopolize technologies?! Remember what that led to in another setting?! That's the point. Knowledge should be accessible; we don't regret anything here in Shenkai 😎
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In general, the role of Alma in the epilogue is certainly exaggerated. If some boy with a magic wand saves everyone from slavery with a wave of his hand, but then he is killed by some drunkard, and slavery continues for another hundred years, it means that there was no real demand in society or among those in power to abolish it; further evolution of self-awareness is needed among the people of Heckeklia. Let's be honest, the GM simply wanted to immortalize his in-game character...

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