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#934
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There’s no need to execute Yashur. Yashur is peaceful! He just doesn’t have that special herb that’s needed to understand what’s going on…
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

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#935
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No, I think I'm just being negative... guys, don't execute me, just pour orange juice on me(((
I'm hearing for the first time that Odessa is in perpetual night. But it's not even near the Arctic Circle...
Forgive me, I read your posts occasionally, but I'll probably join late in the evening. But I like that people are communicating; it will be very helpful for us.
 

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#936
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A rather uneventful day yesterday. The Inar clue on Medja, then another Inar clue and a vote from Nebo against me. Then another uneventful day. Then your post #681, in which you reassure the town that Necoran isn't such a big threat right now. Then Heroist silently adds a vote, and you silently add one right after. Ment adds a vote without much effort, and Yashur adds a vote with a joke. I write a post, and you ask a question:
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If you only read the literary descriptions of all three female roles, where did the reasoning about Inar's usefulness come from before the clue appeared against you?
You and Nebo mention that the topic of reasoning about Inar was raised by Ples, but "I joined in."
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Okay, let's consider all the factors.

There are no blocks, checks, or other displayed NDs against you, which aligns well with Inar's isolation.
The clue is normal, in my opinion. It's moderately difficult and long.
What about your daytime behavior? Well, you said it all yourself.

You could theoretically be Town or Mafia, but the combination of factors is against you. If you weren't Mafia, you would be pushing for Medja right now.
From this post, it's clear that you joined in the execution of me as Inar, based on his isolation and based on the clue. And that I would be pushing for Medja if I weren't Mafia. In post #725, I asked you what you were thinking.
If I were Mafia, would I defend Medja, who was being targeted with clues instead of me?
You never answered this question, by the way. At the same time, Medja asked you if you were targeting him as Inar based on the same clue. You said:
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I thought for a long time between you and Morning, I like both clues in themselves. But even when I started guessing the clue, I said that starting from Perina was nonsense, but I didn't see any other options. After the clue from Nebo, I realized that maybe it really wasn't necessary to start from Perina. Also, Morning didn't want to vote for Mafia. That's why my vote is like that.

And now, the question. What exactly is the misunderstanding? Will you say that all this time, during yesterday, you were executing me as Necoran, not Inar? Based on the fact that I said something in favor of Medja? Despite the fact that there are no mentions of Necoran in your posts regarding my execution? After you acknowledged that you accepted the interpretation of the clue against me as a clue against Inar? After your post #681?

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Cancel Nebo. Accuse Yashur.
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#937
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Wow, Mourne went to drown the Master, not bad.

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How many votes does Yashur have now?
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#938
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By the way, if that Heroist hadn't used that voice on me, followed by three more, I might not have ended up in that precarious situation. It doesn't align with the theory that Necoran was trying to save Inar by casting a vote at the end. So, I trust him much more than all those Toxes who didn't lift a finger to save me...
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#939
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Actually, I didn't vote for you, and I wrote that whoever executes you is not a good person. :С

Yes, that's not much, but I was celebrating a friend's birthday that day and wasn't really in a state to actively participate in the Mafia, you understand...
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Morning

So, now the question is: what exactly is the misunderstanding? Are you saying that all this time, you were executing me as Necoran, not Inar, because of yesterday? Based on the fact that I said something in favor of Medj? Despite the fact that your posts about my execution don't mention Necoran at all? After you admitted that you accepted the interpretation of the clue against me as a clue against Inar? After your post #681?

In short, yesterday I essentially tried to convey two main points:

1) It was generally beneficial for the town to execute Inar.
2) It was not beneficial for the Mafia and Necoran to execute Inar.

After the clue from Nebo, I saw you as Inar and no one else.

From all of the above, it follows that I was against reasoning about the usefulness of a serial killer and in favor of executing a likely serial killer. All my actions confirm this line of reasoning.
Your defense of Medj against the clue doesn't tell me anything; it could have just been a way to butter him up, nothing more.
Whether the Mafia or Necoran considered the clue to be correct or not is unknown to me.
What kind of move Heroist made is also unclear to me. In the previous game, he had a fairly firm position regarding executions when he was a town member; in this game, he is acting diametrically opposed in terms of voting. Moreover, in that game, he was a character without any information from the night actions. This should at least raise suspicion.
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Execute Megerson - 1 (Yashur)
Execute Yashur - 6 (Heroist, Ment, Megerson, Master, Nebo, Morning)
Execute Nebo - 1 (Tox)

6 votes are required for execution.
Стартовый пост - Квенты - Разное
Резара - Аксель - Орвальд - ЭмилияСтэфания - Амвросий - ЛестерАльсираАлария
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#942
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but I was celebrating a friend's birthday that day
Too bad I don't play Mafia or Manhunt...
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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#944
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Your defense of Medja regarding the evidence doesn't tell me anything; it could have just been a way to curry favor with him, nothing more.
So, as a mage who committed a murder with evidence, I would be defending a random player who would be executed based on that evidence. I wouldn't remain silent and abstain from the execution, nor would I simply add my vote without causing a fuss, because it would be beneficial for me as a mage if the towns executed the others. Instead, I would actively defend a suspicious player during the day, a player who is already being targeted, and to whom my evidence has been attributed, putting myself in the spotlight. Hoping to win... nothing. Just to curry favor with the suspicious player during the day. This doesn't seem logical, and you haven't justified it, but nevertheless, you used it as one of the arguments in several of your posts yesterday. Shouldn't I consider this a blatant attempt to frame me? I should.
That's all. As you can see, I'm not urging anyone to vote against you, but I'm sharing my thoughts on why you're not on the list of people I can trust.
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#945
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Master, wouldn't you like to record a voiceover for Yashur so we can find some double-voice actors?
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#946
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Hey, wouldn't you want to record Yaschur's voice so we can find some double-voice actors?
So we can screw up the voting? Are you some kind of Mafia bot?
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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Morning
In other words, as a Mage and having committed a murder with evidence, I would try to exonerate a random player who would be executed based on that evidence. I wouldn't remain silent and abstain from voting for the execution, nor would I casually add my vote without causing a fuss, because as a Mage, it would be beneficial for me if the townsfolk executed the rest. Instead, I would actively defend a suspicious player during the day, a player who is already being targeted, and to whom my evidence has been attributed, putting myself in the spotlight. Hoping to win... nothing. To curry favor with the suspicious player during the day. This doesn't seem logical to me, and you haven't justified it, but nevertheless, you used it as one of the arguments in several of your posts yesterday. Shouldn't I consider this a blatant attempt to frame me? I should.
That's basically it. As you can see, I'm not urging anyone to vote against you, but I'm sharing my thoughts on why you're not on the list of people I can trust.
Yeah, why not. I understand that if 10 people voted for him after me, and you were defending him, that would be different. But since it was clear that he wouldn't be executed, why not "defend" him a little?

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Master, wouldn't you want to remove your vote from Yashur so we can look for double-voters?
It's a rather dubious idea
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#948
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Well, why not? I understand if 10 people suddenly voted for him after me, and you would defend him. But in this case, it was clear that he wouldn't be executed, so why not "defend" him?
That's exactly why people like you will dig in, start connecting one thing to another, look for clues, and find patterns. Never, not a single sane mafia player, who doesn't have strong connections within the town, will suddenly appear out of nowhere and start arguing against executing someone based on their own evidence, especially when there are no other candidates, even if they feel that this player won't be executed. They won't gain anything from it, but they could lose a lot. If you've played as a mafia member, you know that it's in their best interest for the town to quickly eliminate the other mafia members and each other, and for the night phase to focus on the suspected town members, not on them. And no amount of flattery will make a difference when solid factors like checks, blocks, and correct evidence are brought against them.
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