Posts from Mafia 110. Heckelia Auto-translated

Heroist, I'll be honest, I don't feel like rereading the first day right now. Could you ask Ment to post a link to the message where Nebo interprets the clues for me? Answering the question. What's illogical about the version? Well, imagine the mafia didn't shoot, but the town marksman did. Probably, this happens in one game out of ten. And Revan's description isn't unambiguous. Most players leaned towards the interpretation that the queen was killed. And you're not considering anything other than your version. This means you have some information that it was exactly like that. For example, you are the mafia yourself and know the moves. I'm confused that you don't allow for the possibility of other (and, by the way, more likely) options. This isn't a peaceful game.

Why did you decide that? Where does this interest in the ability-less Fragment come from?

I thought you meant that Nebo shot Fragment twice. Maybe I misunderstood.

Medj,
Here,
and here.

Yes, in my opinion, Nebok could very well be the one who goes to shoot in the first night as a marksman. And yesterday, he seemed more like a town member than a member of the Mafia. He was too active.

Guys, once again, are you 100% sure that the third creature is actually a healer? Not a defender, not an isolator, not some other trick?

I think that healing...

>Could you, Ment, post a link to that message where Nebo interprets the clues?
Right after the first newspaper, on the very same page, he posted a link to the Madrid coat of arms.

>Well, imagine, the Mafia didn't shoot, but the sharpshooter did.
The Mafia could have been poisoning, or they were simply outdone.

>And you're not considering anything other than your own version.
There's no secret information here. It's just that you all don't doubt the role of the cripple in today's game, right? Because you understand who it could be. It's the same with Rafaga for me, that's all.

>This isn't a peaceful game.
Well, this is already in the realm of psychology; I'm suspected until the very end in every game, nothing I can do about it.

I'm not the Mafia, Ment isn't the Mafia.

Did you decide that yourselves? I counted three Mafia votes in the first and this day, and I'm starting to doubt...

A player is so suspicious that they are considered either a cheater or a fool.

Well, if it's healing, then it can't be Rafaga being healed, right? Then Heroist is right, then Sky-Alm killed Rafaga on the first night, and Albea healed some Paladin who came to give Sky the talisman...

Heroist, I'm asking you not to argue with me right now. I can't explain my logic, for obvious reasons, but my conclusion is very simple to understand - if Shizuo didn't block on the first night, then Ment is a town member. That's it.

I imagined two Mages going to attack Nebk, while Rafaga healed one of them. :D

Oh, I've got an idea!

Shizuo, I'm a peaceful player, and I'm asking you to trust me. I might be very wrong about Mentha being peaceful if you blocked him on the first night. If you didn't block him and you believe me, please run a Floria check on me. We'll definitely know it's you because Floria won't go to me a second time. You'll see my status, draw the necessary conclusions, and you'll have two guaranteed peaceful players.

Ment, thank you.

This certainly complicates things...

Heroist, it seems you're an intuitive player. That's not necessarily a bad thing; intuitive players often perform as well as logical ones.
But I have a question for you: what are your impressions of the Arandor game over the past two days?

My conclusion is very simple: if Shizuo didn't block on the first night, then Ment is a good guy. That's it.

Oh, you're rambling, ToX.

Just in case, here's the order of night actions as I understand it:
0. Concert of the Peonies (displayed).
1. Preparation of Inara (not displayed)
2. Blocks Zhen Lo (displayed).
2.5. Blocks Shizuo as Shendet (displayed)
3. Blocks Shendet (displayed).
3.5. Blocks Shizuo as Dario (displayed)
4. Isolates Dario (displayed).

Besides Shizuo, there's also Shendet.
Blocking Ment by Shizuo and Shendet is indistinguishable – whether Ment doesn't act in one case or the other, it's the same.
The fact that Ment becomes a good guy after being blocked by Shizuo, but not after being blocked by Shendet, is a big question.

p.s. inactive players: Moni, Nefela, Crabbi, Tiel, macca, Yashchur

"Was there a boy?"

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We need to identify the perpetrators somehow... But how, that's the question.

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Will anyone connect the clue from the first night to Haven? I'm not able to guess the clues right now, sorry.

Well, I wouldn't say that; you can find some logic in it too, but okay, consider me whatever you want...

But then I have a question for you: what are your impressions of playing Arandor over these two days?

What about Aretz? Well, he's less active than in the previous one, but after that, I really don't feel like saying anything about him)))
without substantial evidence, at least

What's the point of trying to connect it if most people agree that it's Alm? And besides, nothing conclusive came out of those bear-related discussions yesterday; I'm even curious about how the evidence was constructed and whether the written text should be understood literally or not.

Oh, you're getting confused, Tox.

Just in case, here's the order of night actions in my understanding:
0. Concert of Piony (displayed).
1. Preparation of Inar (not displayed)
2. Blocks Zhen Lo (displayed).
2.5. Blocks Shizuo as Shendet (displayed)
3. Blocks Shendet (displayed).
3.5. Blocks Shizuo as Dario (displayed)
4. Isolates Dario (displayed).

Besides Shizuo, there's also Shendet here.
Blocking by Ment with Shizuo and Shendet doesn't differ in any way - whether Ment doesn't move in one case or doesn't move in the other.
The question is, why, when blocked by Shizuo, Ment becomes peaceful, but when blocked by Shendet, he doesn't.

Tox just wants to say that he is Shendet and he didn't block Ment. And since it wasn't him and it wasn't Shizuo, it means it was Mafia. And since it was Mafia, it means Ment is peaceful. Well... from Tox's point of view...