CIS 2020

злой_романтик

6 years ago

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I've compiled a list of viewers; please check it, I might have forgotten someone.
We already have 62 people participating in the daily challenges! :smile54: There are almost no spots left for those who want to join ;)

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Alone

6 years ago

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evil_romantic

It seems we will still need a qualifying round...

So, is the list of participants final (32 people) or will there be further selection?

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злой_романтик

6 years ago

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Alone

So, is the list of participants final (32 people), or will there be further selection?

If there are more than 32 people, a qualifying round will be held among 1-2 pairs of participants... most likely on the m200 map.

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Alone

6 years ago

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zloy_romantik

If there are more than 32 people, there will be a qualifying round among 1-2 pairs of participants... most likely on the m200 template :)

I think this is not right.
Why plan, reschedule your affairs, etc., if you only came for the M200? It's good that people decided to come at the last moment, but that's not enough.

I think those who booked a place in advance should play without any qualifying rounds. The qualifying round should be held among those who registered last. This "educational" measure will also allow people to book and pay for places in advance in future tournaments.

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злой_романтик

6 years ago

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Alone

I don't think this is right.
Why plan, reschedule, and so on if you only came for M200? It's good that people decided to come at the last minute, but it's not enough.

I think those who booked a spot in advance should play without any qualifiers. The qualifier should be held among those who registered last. This "educational" measure will also allow people to book and pay for spots in advance for future tournaments.

Well, the tournament regulations were written a long time ago...
Tournament format.

The tournament is designed for 32 people. (in case of a larger number, qualifying games will be held for players with a low rating on the M200 or Jebus King 2.5 map).

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MerlinTheMagician

6 years ago

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evil_romantic

Well, the tournament rules were written a long time ago...
Tournament format.

The tournament is designed for 32 players. (If there are more, there will be qualifying matches for players with low ratings on the M200 or Jebus King 2.5 template).

Just in case, I'll remind you that the tournament rules were changed (after participants had already started registering). The change in rules wasn't emphasized. And, in principle, participants still have questions about the rules (according to information from streams) - for example, about the pool of templates (again, this is what I saw in chats and heard on streams in recent weeks).
In this case, I'm just expressing my incredibly old and senile opinion, which everyone doesn't care about - Egor, aka "Alone," has a valid point, because people are not coming to a fully sponsored online event "at someone else's expense," but they are coming at their own expense.
If the organizers see (saw, anticipated) a lot of interest and an inability to accept all those who want to participate as full-fledged participants in the tournament, then what prevents (prevented) them from holding online qualifiers, as was done in the very first CIS tournaments? :smile14:

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Dirty_Player

6 years ago

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MerlinTheMagician

Just in case, let me remind you that the tournament regulations were changed (after participants had already started registering).

The tournament rules were added on March 10th. A couple of days later, the list of templates was changed. Before this, there were no rules, and after this, the rules haven't been changed. The clause about qualifying matches was added specifically on March 10th. Players who submitted applications without the rules implicitly agree to participate regardless of the format.

MerlinTheMagician

So, what prevents (or prevented) holding online qualifiers, as it was done in the very first CIS tournaments?

Well, with such a situation, it is difficult to predict anything; until the last moment, it is unknown who will be able to come and who won't. You yourself understand that the time frame does not allow for conducting a tournament with an unlimited number of participants.
The idea of regional selections (even if online) is very cool, in my opinion, but it is difficult to implement in the current realities and requires serious development.

HellLighT

6 years ago

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In my opinion, if a player joins the online lobby without a game rating just to participate, it's not as important as simply being present at the event. However, if, despite this, they aim to participate with a competitive mindset, it won't be difficult for them to win a qualifying round, for which I don't think any fees will be charged, unlike participation in the main stage of the tournament.

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MerlinTheMagician

6 years ago

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HellLighT

He will easily win the qualifying round, and I don't think any fee will be charged for it, unlike the main stage of the tournament.

Essentially, that's what this is about – to waive the full fee for the "qualifying" round...

злой_романтик

6 years ago

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Naturally, there will be no entry fees for participants in the qualifying round – only for participants in the main tournament bracket. There are already 32 participants, and it's not certain if there will be more (plus, several players from the list haven't confirmed their desire to be players rather than spectators, so it's possible that we'll have fewer than 32 players). Also, unfortunately, there's no guarantee that Tvarina, Chris, and Lizard will be able to attend our event.

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MerlinTheMagician

6 years ago

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Dirty_Player

You understand that the time constraints don't allow for a tournament with an unlimited number of participants.

With an average to maximum number of participants of around 40 people, with a probability of over 99 percent, let's say no more than 64 people, it turns out that with an adequate timer, the game can be played without any problems: in 5 full scheduled game days on the current platform, there will be at least 10 rounds, or even 13, based on the average time per game. And then there are options - how exactly to organize it...

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Dirty_Player

6 years ago

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zloy_romantik

Of course, there will be no entry fees for the participants of the qualifying round – only for the participants of the main tournament bracket.

Well, by the way, this is also a debatable issue. You can take 50% from two participants in the selection. But your option is also quite acceptable.

zloy_romantik

besides, unfortunately, there is no complete certainty that Tvaryna, Chris, and Lizard will be able to attend our event.

Lizard definitely won't come. :D

MerlinTheMagician

With an average to maximum number of participants of around 40 people, with a probability of over 99 percent, let it be no more than 64 people, it turns out that with an adequate timer, the game can be played without any problems: in 5 full scheduled game days on the current platform, there will be at least 10 rounds, or even 13, on average, per game. And there are already options - how exactly to play it...

Well, you can also hold it for 100 people (hello, Krasnodar). But in exactly the system that was in the online CIS tournament, it is extremely difficult to include someone.

=Lizard=

6 years ago

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If he comes, it will definitely be Lizard. The General isn't ready for the CIS region yet. Although, let's see who wins the qualifier (in my opinion).

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Jelen117

6 years ago

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HellLighT

In my opinion, if someone comes to the lobby without a game rating just to hang out and play, it's not that important, as long as they're present at the event. But if, despite this, they claim to participate with a competitive motivation, it won't be difficult for them to win the qualifying round, for which, I think, no money will be charged, unlike participation in the main stage of the tournament.

But what if someone comes to the CIS event every year and highly values the opportunity to play with their friend in an offline tournament – it reminds them of their youth, with the difference that now they're playing with one of the strongest players? And they didn't know that this year, for the first time, there would be a qualifying tournament. Could they be disappointed?

P.S. I'm not discussing the meaning of the selection process in general, but I can understand the disappointment.

HellLighT

6 years ago

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Very often, even participating in a tournament doesn't guarantee a match against a strong player, and if you're eliminated in the qualifying round, you've already played against someone stronger... the system isn't perfect, but if you reject it, offer an alternative.

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