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In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with this. If someone creates a template in the game, then everyone who has the right to play this game can freely use it without any guilt.

The Хоты team is probably in shock with this thread :D

They arrived. What accusations did you see?
I had nothing to do with the studio ban. I didn't even think about doing things like submitting reports. I watch their streams myself... even though I'm banned. I have nothing to hide.

I expressed myself a little incorrectly. Not accusations, of course, but statements.
For example, that the latest version was written according to my instructions, considering that I haven't played JK for very long and didn't have much desire to, besides, I repeat once again that I personally was happy with the first version without any improvements to the imaginary balance.

And about the studio ban - this is just an example of such baseless statements.

Someone just suggests removing something, and they're already ready to do it.

I'm willing to consider it if I see the point.

Has anyone heard anything about the Chaton Souverain template, or is anyone actively playing the Survival template? Where are they all? So, if you think that without promotion, your work is worth something, take off your rose-colored glasses.

Well, if you think that way, then you can just not create any templates at all.
I didn't understand the thing about the 8 graves. Is this some super old version or something?
Promotion doesn't guarantee anything; if the template isn't very good, no matter how much money you invest in it, people won't play it in the end. JK has already shown that he maintains a certain position in the lobby without further promotion.

You're talking about Survival, but what prevents you from playing it with Valenok, like you did that time? Is there no benefit to it? It seems strange to me... that is, it turns out that we have such a variety of templates in the game that no one needs anything anymore and no one wants to try something new.

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Guys, I understand everything. The fact that someone added their nickname to the template is a minor thing, of course; more serious things happen in the world that people worry about.

MSS is making its tournament version, and I don't see any problem with that. Oldam liked it more, that's fine. It's normal practice to edit maps to suit the needs of tournaments and organizers.
Just don't forget about those who are just starting their journey in the lobby. Don't forget about the current realities of the gaming industry. The main version of Jebus King, which is played in the lobby, should соответствовать these realities, which is what I'm trying to implement.

If MSS also treated all this more simply and didn't try to claim "officiality" for their version, everything would be great. By the way, for those who don't know, it all started with them coming to me with complaints about the "BRAND" and asking me to change the template's name. I didn't agree, and then in the JK2.5 announcement, they simply wrote that it was now the official version and that people should beware of fakes (!!!).
And if they didn't ban me everywhere I could be, for no particular reason, that would be nice too. I'm not some terrorist who just wants to mess with people or start a riot. I just create templates, chat in the lobby, and don't force anything on anyone.

If I understand correctly, the essence of the disagreement boils down to properly displaying authorship according to the template and identifying versions. Then, a compromise lies in the following points: 1. The author of the original idea – MKS – should be indicated somehow at the end of the description of all template versions. Template Pack -> Settings -> Description. (In a society where copyright is respected, this is normal practice; look at the credits for films, for example.) 2. The author of a specific version can be anyone, and they also indicate themselves and the template version number there. 3. If you treat each other with respect, then you don't even need to get confused about the numbering of versions – just communicate with the active authors (MKS, Freeman?) and agree on the numbers. Or add some kind of unique prefix/suffix to the number – then you can number them however you want in your own garden. 4. None of the players whose opinion may matter will ever get confused about the version numbers if the authors ensure that these versions are freely available and provide a proper change history. EXAMPLE Xenofex MT_JC Any two reasonable people will figure it out and come to an agreement. Those who cannot even handle this will still play whatever they happen to find. And essentially, such discussions are not for them or about them. At any time now or in the future: 5.1. The Hoty team is free to choose and promote any version. 5.2. Tournament organizers are free to choose and promote any version. 5.3. Players are free to choose and play any version. 5.4. Any enthusiast can take any existing template version and create their own new one, as they say, with black dragons and sea sorceresses. Time will tell which version takes root and how exactly – c'est la vie.

by the way, a question

which version is currently used for esports, and which one is considered more suitable for casual play?

Xenofex MT_JC or the standard mt_jc?

Ahahahah, what a dilemma, what a question! I don't know how to solve it; we need to create an expert commission! Thank goodness I play Heroes 3 and not all this other stuff!

Hahaha, what a dilemma, what a question! I don't know how to solve it, we need to create a commission! An expert one... thank goodness I play Heroes 3 and not all this nonsense!

It's not entirely clear how the version of Heroes affects something like this. If you could only play the standard map, there wouldn't be any problems at all. :smile15:

Or, playing some conditional "Carnival" template in some tournament from Armageddon - that's Heroes 3, but "Jebus King" is suddenly nonsense?

The beast dislikes wild animals, a Kappa paradox.

Everything is fine here, the atmosphere is great! Happy Victory Day to everyone!!