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THIRD OFFLINE HEROES 4 TOURNAMENT " Saving Angel "

1. To participate in the third offline Heroes 4 tournament « Saving Angel », you must register on our website and leave an application in this thread.

P.S. This tournament is held as part of the general Van Kanigem tournament, therefore all information, as well as its progress and results, will be displayed in that section.

This stage of the tournament is rated.




2. The tournament is played on the Russian version of Heroes 4: Winds of War by Buka. The save will be generated on the Russian version.

3. Game Goal – defeat the enemy.

The result will be evaluated primarily based on minimum time.
If several players have an equal completion time, the winner will be determined by points; if a favorite is still not determined, then by the amount of mercury.

4. Tournament Rules.

1) It is forbidden to use cheat codes during the final run of the save.

2) It is forbidden to restart or perform any other modification of the initial save.

3) Use of the "space" key.

3.1. Use of the "space" key is FORBIDDEN when boarding a boat.
3.2. Use of the "space" key is FORBIDDEN when disembarking from a boat to shore.
3.3. Use of the "space" key is ALLOWED when pulling a killed hero (grave) out from under monsters.

4) Bugs - SaveBag

4.1. Shifting monsters using saving - FORBIDDEN.
4.2. Additional hero upgrades related to saving - FORBIDDEN.
4.3. 65000 arrows for Elves using saving in battle - FORBIDDEN.
4.4. Digging up the Grail - e.g., visiting all idols, finding the burial place of the Grail, then loading a "good" save and attempting to dig up the Grail without visiting idols - FORBIDDEN.

5) Bugs - SinglBag

5.1. Overcoming obstacles on land, i.e., when dragging units with the mouse from upper slots to lower ones, they end up, for example, behind bushes that are normally impassable (the player does nothing forbidden, uses the mouse; during this operation, units lose some of their movement).
ALLOWED.

5.2. Overcoming obstacles when disembarking from a boat to shore, i.e., landing on shore without an indication that landing is possible (the anchor is not visible on the shore), again done with the mouse; units' movement is reset (space is obviously forbidden - see point 2).
ALLOWED.

5.3. Upgrading hero graves using a Thief. Upgrading hero graves using Grandmaster Stealth.

TARGETED upgrading of a grave in this manner is FORBIDDEN.

NON-TARGETED upgrading of a grave in this manner is ALLOWED.
You must provide a reasoned explanation as to why you were forced to accidentally upgrade the grave and why it was unavoidable.

5.4. Upgrading graves using ordinary units on attack, defense, or speed crystals (sapphires) in battle, or increasing magic points.
FORBIDDEN.

5.5. Units carrying a grave are allowed to visit stables, oases, wells, and other objects that increase movement points.
Therefore, EVEN TARGETED transport of a grave through these objects is ALLOWED.

5.6. Use of a hero's spellbook by the hero's grave on the adventure map.
FORBIDDEN.

6) It is forbidden to use "completely Dead-end external dwellings" on the battlefield.
(I will explain in more detail for those who don't understand. I consider a "Dead-end external dwelling" to be a COMPLETELY closed area, for example by rocks or logs, which contains
a small island for a unit, such as a fairy, harpy, vampire, etc.
That is, a place that cannot be entered on land by a unit of the smallest
size (3x3) and can only be reached by air—a kind of natural fortress). Having such an external dwelling, one fairy could beat a hundred Black Dragons and win an impossible battle; to prevent such situations, I forbid "Dead-end external dwellings" in this tournament.

7) Discussion of the tournament on the forum during its progress is FORBIDDEN!!!
(Players who violate this rule automatically disqualify themselves from playing the tournament; their results will not be counted and will be annulled).

8) EVERYTHING ELSE IS ALLOWED.
(unlimited number of heroes on the map beyond eight, and so on).

A "non-dead-end external dwelling", or more accurately a semi-open one, is allowed in this tournament.
By semi-open external dwelling, I mean a place that a unit or Hero can
Enter on foot, while the attacking monsters, regardless of their size, must be able to reach the Hero or unit to strike them (the point of a Semi-open external dwelling is to limit the number of monsters attacking you simultaneously). Besides, it's not proper for a Hero to hide in an external dwelling while the enemies waste themselves on whatever. Our Heroes fight with open visors.

9) The player is required to save intermediate saves for each game day during the tournament run.
Intermediate saves may be requested by the tournament leader to verify the honesty of the run. If the use of cheat codes, or errors and game features explicitly forbidden in the rules, are detected, the player will be immediately excluded from the tournament.
It is also necessary to save controversial battles (e.g., a hero and a fairy against 100 dragons) so that the honesty of the victory in the clash can be verified.

10) Along with the final save, players are required to send a description of the final battle tactics (the more difficult the battle, the more detailed).
If the win depends on morale\luck rolls\specific actions of computer players, a full description of the battle is required—one that allows it to be repeated.

11) Send the final save to the email address Lu41k@yandex.ru. The sent save must contain the tournament number (3), the participant's number in the application table, the abbreviation (SA « Saving Angel » ), and the player's Nickname. Example: 3_1_SA _Lu41k.h4s

12) The tournament starts on October 1 and will last until October 31 (inclusive). The result will be announced on November 6, 2007.

13) After receiving your save, you will see in the application table that:

the save is accepted - indicated by a Bold Nickname

This list can be added to by new participants!
We invite everyone to take part in the tournament!


Saves will only be considered from players who are in this table, so make your applications IN ADVANCE!!!

PARTICIPANT LIST
NUMBERPLAYER NICKNAME
1 Lu41k
2 :( Starhan :(
3 vbn
4 BigAke
5 IronAxe
6 Undergrounder
7 Arandor
8 :( Kamikaze :(
9 General ZeT
10 ZYbr
11 midzhajj
12 SandroXXL
13 Brackman
14 :( StormS-K:(
15 LeSHiJ-Max
16 Fireball
17 Romanuel

Everything about the starting save


1. Download the save.

2. The downloaded save must be placed on your computer in the GAMES folder of the installed Heroes 4.

3. Load it and start playing at any time convenient for you, while remembering to make daily saves.

4. After reaching the final action (after which victory occurs), save again.

5. With the final save, describe this last step in detail (most likely a battle); then the results will be processed faster and there will be fewer suspicions of cheating!!!

6. A full description of the tournament map is encouraged (optional). If such descriptions are provided, a contest for the best description will be held; 10 of them (the very best) will take their place of honor in the "Hall of Fame" section!

7. Send this save to the specified address (in the rules of this tournament).

8. Wait for the results.

P.S. The map "Saving Angel" was taken from www.heroesportal.net, author Kolizey.

I wish all participants enjoyment of the game, a good time, and of course GOOD LUCK!!


With respect, tournament organizers Lu41k and Magnus!
P.P.S. We express great gratitude for help in organizing the tournament to Alan, Kyle, and Pandora! Thank you very much!!!!

ATTENTION all tournament participants!!!! The map and save have been replaced!!! Therefore, I ask you to download the new, edited version of the map and naturally the new save for it!!! Once again, I apologize for this incident and hope for your understanding!



- Changed October 5!


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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I apologize to all of you again for my clumsy work...

Kamikaze is right, there wouldn't have been a tournament without you :) You learn from your mistakes;
What tournament are you organizing next?:D


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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it’s possible that the victory condition for saving the angels is tied to some script. In this case, it’s best to remove the script or the components of the quest.
Просто еще один
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Perhaps the victory condition for saving the angels is tied to some script. In that case, it's best to remove the script or the components of the quest.
It would have been better not to mess with the save file or the map at all. Just change the secondary victory conditions in the rules (use hero experience points for this, for example). In the tournament assignment: kill the AI opponents. So what if the game doesn't end and doesn't show the score? No one is stopping you from submitting a winning save file where the last AI opponent disappears. We can see the completion time and the secondary criteria for determining the winner. It was obvious. Well, never mind, what's done is done. Let's move on ;)
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It would have been better not to mess with the save file or the map at all. Instead, just change the secondary conditions for determining the winner in the rules (for example, use hero experience points for this). The tournament task: kill the AI opponents. So what if the game doesn't end and doesn't show the score? No one is stopping you from submitting a winning save file where the last AI opponent disappears. We can see the number of days it took to complete the map, and the progress towards the secondary criterion for determining the winner. This was obvious. Well, never mind, what's done is done. Let's move on.

IronAxe, haven't you gotten tired of this yet? It seems like everyone already understands your point, so why do you keep copying it from post to post? The tournament organizer has made their decision. It's different from yours, but what can you do? You've already proven that you're an expert in save files, tricks, and everything else.
Maybe you could organize a tournament for us. We would be happy to participate. :)

But for now, just play and enjoy the game. The map is beautiful (you have to agree), and it's a pleasure to play it even without the tournament. I don't see anything wrong with having to make some adjustments and do it right during the tournament... I think it will even be beneficial, and this excellent knowledge of the map will help in completing it. This happens even with the most experienced organizers. And there was very little time to organize this, so there's no point in making excuses, and besides, there's no one to apologize to. So, thank you to Luchik for making the 9th stage happen at all.

Sincerely, Pandora ;)
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Thank you all so much for your understanding and support!

SandroXXL, yes, I checked everything, removed the events, and also removed the victory conditions. I set it to allow standard victory conditions. Hmm... I don't even know where else it could be hidden. I don't know the editor that well; maybe there's something else. If you want, you can take a look at the map later; maybe you'll find the reason (just out of interest and for the future).


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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Thank you all so much for your understanding and support!

SandroXXL, yes, I checked everything, removed the events, and also removed the victory conditions. I set it to allow standard victory conditions. Hmm... I don't even know where else it could be hidden. I don't know the editor that well; maybe there's something else. If you want, you can take a look at the map later; maybe you'll find the reason (just out of curiosity and for the future).
Where can I download the map? I'd like to participate, even though Heroes of Might and Magic IV isn't really my thing, but still...
Хакер - не преступник.:smile28: Взлом - для искусства. Смысл - в свободе.
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Brackman, I've already registered you as number 13)) May it bring you luck)) And as for your strength... well, give it a try))) And welcome to our cozy forum;)

StormS-K, see the first post of the topic; it contains a link to the map and save file!
Since you want to participate, I'll register you as number 14.
Good luck to you!))

I won't be here until Sunday, so please post in the topic. When I return, I'll add all those who want to participate to the table and answer any questions that may arise.


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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Thank you, I appreciate it. I will download it.
Хакер - не преступник.:smile28: Взлом - для искусства. Смысл - в свободе.
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Brackman, I've already registered you as number 13)) May it bring you luck)) And as for strength... well, give it a try))) And welcome to our cozy forum![/B]
Yeah, right. Lucky as a drowned man. But still, thanks!
Хороший сон укрепляет боевой дух. Хорошая еда укрепляет боевой дух. Хорошие деньги укрепляют боевой дух. А больше всего укрепляет боевой дух - отсутствие врага.
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IronAxe, haven't you gotten tired of it yet! It seems like everyone has already understood your point, so why do you keep copying it from post to post?
So that you don't have to regenerate the saves again in the middle of an already started Tournament.
Pandora;116847

The Tournament organizer has made their decision. It differs from yours, but what can you do... You have already proven that you are an expert in saves, tricks, and so on. Maybe you could organize a Tournament for us. We would be happy :)
Unfortunately, I don't have organizational skills. And if I have proven something, then I am even more surprised that the organizer didn't listen to the advice - I just wanted to help and make things easier :(
Pandora;116847

Now, just play and enjoy the game. The map is beautiful (you'll agree), and it's a pleasure to just play it.
I would say the map is challenging :) Playing it is fun - you'll have to rack your brains :)
Pandora;116847

I don't see anything wrong with having to make some adjustments and do it right during the Tournament...
Yes, I don't see anything wrong with that either. I just clarified that it can be done without it :)
Pandora;116847

So, thank you to Luchik for making the 9th stage happen.
Yes, I agree. Especially since, as far as I understand, this is the first Tournament that Luchik is organizing. All that remains is to wish him success in organizing Tournaments, if he continues to devote himself to this difficult task!
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Dear players, on this map, there are two paths to victory. The first is to defeat everyone, and the second is to reach the angels. Which one is correct?
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Dear players, on this map there are two paths to victory. The first is to defeat everyone, and the second is to reach the Angels. Which one is correct?
To find out, you need to review the information here here and here => the main goal is to defeat everyone
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I made a mistake. I violated the rules. I was disqualified. I understand the circumstances and I agree with the decision. I hope I won't repeat this mistake in the future. Thank you to the organizers and participants of the tournament. Good luck to everyone.
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7) Discussing the tournament on the forum during its run is PROHIBITED!!!
(Players who violate this rule will automatically be disqualified from participating in the tournament; their results will not be counted and will be annulled).

Unfortunately, yesterday, tournament participant General ZeT violated this rule.

Due to discussing the tournament on the forum during its run, we are forced to exclude General ZeT from further participation in the tournament.

We regret this, but these are the rules. :(

Sincerely, organizers Lu41k and Magnus!


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."

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