[HoMM V]9 Race - Swamp! Is it needed? — New ideas.

3DogMZA

9/25/2007 2:57 PM UTC

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eXeCuToR;113947

That's great! I'm looking forward to it and eager to critique your creatures!

Do you by any chance think I'll just post the already drawn creatures? :rolleyes: I haven't even started doing anything yet. I said we're waiting for the ORCS! I'll post everything in text format with their abilities and so on.

9 ДРАКОНОВ.
Асха - Порядок! Ургаш - Хаос! Силат - Воздух!
Шаласса - Вода! Аркат - Пламя! Силанна - Земля!
Сар-Илам - Дракон-Маг! Эльрат - Свет! Маласса - Тьма!

2DDarkKnight

9/25/2007 3:23 PM UTC

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The Swamp faction is cool, but half of its units have been removed.

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eXeCuToR

9/25/2007 9:05 PM UTC

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3DogMZA;114090

Are you by any chance thinking that I'll just upload the creatures that I've already drawn?:rolleyes: I've barely started doing anything. I think I said, we're waiting for the ORCS! I'll post everything in text format with abilities and so on.

Yes, I understand))) No one is forcing you to draw all of this quickly)))

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First, let's look at the orcs, play as that race, and then we can look at yours)))

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3DogMZA

9/26/2007 1:29 PM UTC

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eXeCuToR;114149

Yes, I understand))) No one is forcing you to draw all of this quickly. First, let's look at the Orcs, play as that race, and then we can look at yours)))

I'm not sure if I'll have time to look at it. And I won't be drawing them much. My job is to program, and others will do the drawing. Someone else will take care of that. A team will consist of some of my friends, and then I'll create a clan that will include everyone who wants to participate in creating this race. I'll only start working on everything after the Orcs, and I also need to study at the same time. There are many problems, and few solutions. So, all that remains is to hope that we will succeed!:)

9 ДРАКОНОВ.
Асха - Порядок! Ургаш - Хаос! Силат - Воздух!
Шаласса - Вода! Аркат - Пламя! Силанна - Земля!
Сар-Илам - Дракон-Маг! Эльрат - Свет! Маласса - Тьма!

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DartDanil

9/29/2007 7:01 AM UTC

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I suggest making the first level:
Frog. There are plenty of frogs in the swamp, and therefore they are used for military purposes. This is not the strongest unit, but they reproduce very well.

attack-------2
defense-----2
damage--------1
HP----------5
speed----5
initiative-8

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Improved: poisonous frog.
Some frogs live in the swamp for so long that they become poisonous.

attack-------2
defense-----2
damage--------1-3
HP----------6
speed----5
initiative-9

Abilities: poisons.

Arandor

9/29/2007 7:27 AM UTC

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))
I like troglodytes more, especially since I suggested them myself))
So I'm voting against the toads)

And in general, all the creatures suggested are suitable for the swamp castle, and I like them))) so I think nothing needs to be changed))

Be strong. Believe

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DartDanil

9/29/2007 8:04 AM UTC

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Trogolodites are more of a Dungeon creature. We need to create another Dungeon faction, and Trogolodites would be the most useful on the first level. Trogolodites are a great idea, but, no offense, I don't think they fit well with the Swamp faction.

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Second level - Swamp Sludge. Ordinary swamp sludge was given life and sent into battle.
Attack-------4
Defense-----1
Damage--------1
HP----------12
Speed----3
Initiative-8
Shots---10

Abilities: Marksman, immunity to poison and plague.

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P.S. It throws sludge (that's why the damage is so low). Improved - Poisonous Swamp Sludge Some of the sludge was poisonous, and it was also given life.
Attack-------4
Defense-----4
Damage--------1-3
HP----------12
Speed----4
Initiative-8
Shots---15

Abilities: Marksman, immunity to poison and plague, poisonous cloud (like the Lich, but instead of attacking the nearest creatures to the target, it poisons them (as well as the target itself)).

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P.S. Growth---------------------12

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2DDarkKnight

9/29/2007 1:32 PM UTC

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DartDanil;114977

I suggest making the first-level unit:
Frog. There are plenty of frogs in the swamp, and therefore they are used for military purposes. This is not the strongest unit, but they reproduce very well.

attack-------2
defense-----2
damage--------1
HP----------5
speed----5
initiative-8

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Improved: Poisonous Frog.
Some frogs live in the swamp for so long that they become poisonous.

attack-------2
defense-----2
damage--------1-3
HP----------6
speed----5
initiative-9

Abilities: poisons.

Yeah, and a level 7 creature, Battletoads, could knock the enemy unit off the battlefield for 3 turns):smile10:

Варвары рулят!!

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DartDanil

9/29/2007 4:42 PM UTC

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When I wrote about toads, I knew that many wouldn't appreciate it, but I still believe that a swamp without toads is just a swamp, perhaps belonging to some industrial factory. Level 3: Swamp Snake. Snakes are very cunning, and therefore it is beneficial to use them in battle.
attack-------5
defense-----1
damage--------3-4
HP----------16
speed----6
initiative-10
growth-----8

Added 2 minutes later Improved - poisonous swamp snake. And poisonous snakes are even more cunning, so it is even more beneficial to use them in battle.
attack-------7
defense-----1
damage--------4-5
HP----------18
speed----8
initiative-12
growth-----8
Abilities: poisons.

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2DDarkKnight

9/30/2007 6:00 AM UTC

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DartDanil;115142

When I wrote about toads, I understood that many wouldn't appreciate it, but I still believe that a swamp without toads is just a swamp, perhaps one belonging to some industrial factory.
Level 3: Swamp Snake.
Snakes are very cunning, and therefore it is beneficial to use them in battle.

attack-------5
defense-----1
damage--------3-4
HP----------16
speed----6
initiative-10
growth-----8

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Improved - poisonous swamp snake.
And poisonous snakes are even more cunning, so it is even more beneficial to use them in battle.

attack-------7
defense-----1
damage--------4-5
HP----------18
speed----8
initiative-12
growth-----8

Abilities: poisons.

Are the snakes like in Heroes of Might and Magic III? If not, then when they are upgraded, they should get wings (let them cost a bit more).

Варвары рулят!!

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DartDanil

9/30/2007 7:30 AM UTC

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It can also have wings, although I prefer it without.
Level 4: Swamp Guardian.
This is a dog covered in black swamp mud, with dirt simply flowing off it.

attack-------5
defense-----9
damage--------6-7
HP----------35
speed----8
initiative-8
growth-----5

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Improved: Vicious Guardian.
Its menacing appearance, specifically the flowing black swamp mud and the contrasting white fangs and claws, as well as red eyes, can scare anyone.

attack-------9
defense-----9
damage--------7-8
HP----------35
speed----8
initiative-10

Abilities: fear (like Nightmares).

Drnik

9/30/2007 11:13 AM UTC

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I don't think the ideas are very good... frogs – will they "jump" onto the enemy, and how will they even attack? It would be better to make frogs as a background element of the city (decoration), and the troglodytes as Neanderthals who can't see anything because they lost their eyesight over time due to the darkness))) Where they live – in caves or a bolt – doesn't matter; they can be found in both))) Mud – it's awful... in my opinion... if you're creating a swamp, it doesn't mean that everything should be related to mud, and if that's the case, there's not that much mud in a swamp!!! There's much more reed)))) or moss))))
Guards – "a dog that's all covered in black swamp mud")))) What is this? You've just discovered America and come up with new hellhounds))

P.S.: Forget the idea that an upgraded unit must necessarily poison, but feel free to share your ideas...

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DartDanil

9/30/2007 12:31 PM UTC

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Well, toads can attack with their tongues, after all, it's level one. Poisonous bolt reed or moss? Doesn't sound good to me. Well, I agree, the swamp guardian isn't my best idea, but it's still an idea.

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Level 5: thunderstorm lizard. An electrified giant swamp lizard. It attacks its target with its tongue, and an electric current passes through the tongue to the target, and if there is someone else standing near the target, the current passes to him (2 times weaker).
attack-------12
defense-----12
damage--------10-14
HP----------75
speed----4
initiative-7
growth-----3

Abilities: large, chain strike (maximum two targets).

Arandor

9/30/2007 12:35 PM UTC

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for level 5, they have a lot of HP) almost like a Hydra) and Chain Lightning for Wyverns... similar units are bad) IMHO)))

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DartDanil

9/30/2007 12:39 PM UTC

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Improved: Thunder Lizard. A huge, old lizard that has accumulated so much electricity that it can strike 4 targets.
attack-------12 defense-----12 damage--------12-16 HP----------85 speed----5 initiative-8
Abilities: large, chain strike (maximum of four targets).

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The cave hydra has 125. Look at the initiative. It should be slow and durable. Sorry, I didn't know that the wyvern had chain lightning. Similar ones are indeed not very good.