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Should we implement a rule that limits excessively long battles by introducing a timer?
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Single choice Public votes Closed 2018-08-16
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Yes. The battle ends quickly if it lasts longer than 5 minutes after the timer expires
19.6% 10 votes
Yes. The battle ends quickly if its duration exceeds 10 minutes after the timer expires
27.5% 14 votes
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Hard Choice




There aren't many Tournaments on the map, and this one has been long overdue.

Rules:

1. Each participant plays with only one Castle throughout the Tournament (specified during registration).
2. The Tournament will be held on version HotA 1.5.3 + latest HD mod version; tournament rules are enabled in all templates.
3. Standard HotA rules apply. Chess clock timer is used.
4. Players bargain for color choice rights. If identical Castles are chosen, they additionally bargain for hero selection, except for mirror match templates.
5. Template selection is done by banning. A coin flip determines who bans first; the player who guesses correctly chooses who bans first.

In BO3 series, there are special template selection rules. In the first game, standard banning applies. In the second game, the played template is removed from the list of available templates, and the loser of the first game starts the ban (i.e., bans one more template). If the score is 1:1, two previously played templates are not available in the third game.

6. Players may mutually agree to make any changes to the rules, except for changing the starting Castle.
7. For each completed match, participants must submit a report and confirmation in this thread, created automatically.
Saves from all matches must be saved until the end of the Tournament and provided upon request by the Tournament organizer or any member of the AC (Administration Committee).
8. If, after the time on the timer expires, a player is in battle for more than 10 minutes, their opponent has the right to demand that they finish it (quick battle Q or retreat).
9. The preferred time for games is daytime (12-24 Moscow time) on weekends and evening (19-24 Moscow time) on weekdays. If a participant cannot play at this time, the absence of a game result will be interpreted by the tournament organizer as a win for their opponent.
If an agreement on the game time could not be reached within the first week, you need to write to the organizer to schedule an ODD (One Day Delay). If no suitable time can be found, an ODD will be scheduled for Saturday at 6:00 PM Moscow time.

Templates:

6lm10a, Spider, Kerberos_1x1, Nostalgia, Jebus Cross, Diamond (roads), Mini-Nostalgia.
For identical pairs, the following are added to the list: h3dm1, mt_Jebus.

On the mt_Jebus template, blue player chooses the starting hero first (bargaining only for color). Rematches are allowed once.

On h3dm1, red player can ban from 0 to 3 starting heroes; then, blue player selects from the remaining heroes first (bargaining only for color). If any of the banned heroes appear on turn 111 in a tavern with troops, it is considered a technical rematch. Rematches are allowed once.

On Kerberos_1x1, the timer applies as with other HLs (High Level maps). The default version of the template has been changed for 1v1 games: the center 20k passage points have been reduced to 12k.
Installation instructions: copy the "Kerberos_1x1" folder (extract the archive) from the attachment into the HotA_RMGTemplates folder (only rmg.txt should be inside).

On Nostalgia, computer selection works as on Mini-Nostalgia.

The attached Diamond includes mandatory roads with respawn points. Currently, this version is not installed by default; you will need to add it yourself.
Installation instructions: copy the "Diamond (roads)" folder (extract the archive) from the attachment into the HotA_RMGTemplates folder (only rmg.txt should be inside).

You can study the templates in more detail using the "RMG Template Editor," which is located in the game's folder. You need to run it and open the text files of the templates you are interested in through it, which are located in the HotA_RMGTemplates folder.

Regulations:

All participants are divided into 3 groups of 16 people each.
The Tournament consists of two stages.
1) Preliminary round - BO1 match between players from group 2 and 3. The winner plays a BO1 match against a player from group 1.
2) Playoffs - Double Elimination. The winner of the preliminary round enters the upper bracket (16 players). Both losers in the preliminary round enter the lower bracket (32 players). Games in the upper bracket are BO3. In the lower bracket, they are BO1. Grand final is BO3 if the score is 1:0.

Dates:

Registration until August 18th.
Draw and start of the Tournament: August 18th.
Two weeks are given for a BO1 series, four weeks for a BO3 series.

Participants (48 players):
Rating is as of the start of the Tournament.

Group 1:
2007 LuckyF necr
1933 BISHOP cove
1933 saneok flux
1888 De_Luxe necr
1887 HellLight flux
1824 =Lizard= castle
1802 Jelen117 flux
1791 MikeM fort
1775 ЯR flux
1743 Xocenk inf
1719 u2noob necr
1702 freesha ramp
1670 battanas tower
1662 flate tower
1644 Tyranuxus dung
1643 Antal_RR ramp

Group 2:
1636 RitoSux ramp
1635 =Stinger= strong
1631 Toganash necr
1629 kolianxxxxxx inf
1606 theShevanesian fort
1597 Мирон ramp
1592 Loinz cove
1583 60pW fort
1577 genie. ramp
1534 PROger flux
1533 socola tower
1507 Al Feyn dung
1490 Benis_xDD necr
1482 Javdet cove
1480 Hi-Tech flux
1469 VovaOgo tower

Group 3:
1461 TK_Fred dung
1429 Wallys flux
1361 Limar_Rikon dung
1353 wariator fort
1312 DreadKn1ght strong
1310 Fill-ua tower
1187 Sevan_80 castle
n/r (1546) Nodl cove
n/r (1536) Ashtray castle
n/r (1497) ZOOMisBack ramp
n/r (1472) norinta castle
n/r (1439) AerinSwift strong
n/r (1432) crewgn castle
n/r (----) Pradromalo castle
n/r (----) Vazelin necr
n/r (----) dendroed ramp

You can change your Castle until the end of registration. If you change it, let me know personally.
In reply to Dirty_Player
7 years ago
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Sav provided statistics on 6lm: here
Nowadays on 6lm, it sometimes happens that there are no Utops in zones 5-6 or in several super-treasures at all. Due to the small total number, there can be a significant imbalance favoring one of the players. As I understand it, this is one of the reasons for increasing the number of Utops. In SoD, the distribution of Utops is quite even, isn't it?
An upper limit is needed to avoid harming with this increase.

Sav, on Spider, can't the increase only be made in treasures? And also impose restrictions on Utops in the remaining zones (no more than 1, then)
In reply to Xocenk
7 years ago
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Xocenk
Sav, is it only possible to increase the number of spiders in trials? And to set limits on the number of spiders in other zones (no more than 1)?
Yes, it is possible. Overall, it's not that important to me how exactly the changes are made, so if the community comes up with a specific proposal, it will probably be implemented. It would be good to avoid making it too complicated, so that players can easily remember what and how has been changed.
In reply to De_Luxe
7 years ago
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De_Luxe
that's how it happened. thx for the game

It seemed like everything was okay, but the opponent was much stronger. My starting town took 123-4 with stats 20 all, Dimension Door, 400 skeletons and other powerful stuff. I should have taken a risk. I tried to take the Dragon Utopia using air summons, but Daremif hadn't experted Air (took a box, fought everything there was, leveled up 2 times for wisdom and intelligence exp, and was short 200 exp until the next level). They killed me in the Dragon Utopia and I surrendered
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7 years ago
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Thank you for playing!
Battle Report Accepted
Сопряжение / Conflux Faction Сопряжение / Conflux
Гриндан / Grindan Start Hero Гриндан / Grindan
Гриндан / Grindan Main Hero Гриндан / Grindan
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Подземелье / Dungeon Faction Подземелье / Dungeon
Гуннар / Gunnar Start Hero Гуннар / Gunnar
Гуннар / Gunnar Main Hero Гуннар / Gunnar
Map Template
6lm10a
Game Length
134 days
Game Date
12/15/2018
Reported
12/15/2018 6:36 AM
Rating Impact Archived
saneok 1963 1972 +9 ↑
Tyranuxus 1797 1788 -9 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 12/17/2018 4:54 AM

In reply to saneok
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7 years ago
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saneok
Thank you for the game!
tfp!
In reply to Xocenk
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7 years ago
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Played Cerberus, the start wasn't fast, but -2 morale; however, by 117 I burned out the fire elemental, made 10 sp and at 123 the first Dragon Utopia dropped as a summon with 2+4all and wings, and it only got better from there — a bunch of stats next to another 2 Dragon Utopias and eating up cons and hives; I made some sups, but Zhenya's game was already going poorly and the stats of 30 in the tavern weren't encouraging either, time to concede, thanks for the game ... played bo1
Battle Report Accepted
Сопряжение / Conflux Faction Сопряжение / Conflux
Луна / Luna Start Hero Луна / Luna
Луна / Luna Main Hero Луна / Luna
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Некрополь / Necropolis Faction Некрополь / Necropolis
Видомина / Vidomina Start Hero Видомина / Vidomina
Видомина / Vidomina Main Hero Видомина / Vidomina
Map Template
Random
Game Length
127 days
Game Date
12/19/2018
Reported
12/19/2018 9:33 AM
Rating Impact Archived
HellLighT 1784 1813 +29 ↑
LuckyF 2162 2133 -29 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 12/19/2018 9:39 AM

In reply to HellLighT
7 years ago
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HellLighT
Played Cerberus, the start wasn't fast, but on the other hand -2 morale, then by 117 burned out the fire elem, made 10 sp and at 123 the first Dragon Utopia fell to a summon with 2+4all and wings, and it only got better from there - a bunch of stats next to another 2 Dragon Utopias and eating up cons and hives, made some sups, but things weren't going well for Zhenya anyway and stats of 30 in the tavern didn't help, time to concede, thanks for the game ... played bo1
The game trolled me from the very beginning, not giving an archer or haste in the Mage Guild against a bunch of ranged blocks; by 122 there was no choice but to dive into the con without checking, Maxis was there and I couldn't finish off 50-something griffins, on the next turn with trade I finally picked up 8 vampire lords, but by then the opp had started showing insane stats on a poor HotA template, so I decided not to drag it out.
Thanks for the game.
PS It's my own fault of course for not crossing out a template that I hadn't tested much. But after the game, having generated it a bit more, I believe such a template simply cannot be added to the tournament pool; it is truly terrible in every way.
In reply to Sav
7 years ago
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Got lucky with the teleport on the first try, especially with the good roads. Thanks for the game.
Battle Report Accepted
Некрополь / Necropolis Faction Некрополь / Necropolis
Тант / Thant Start Hero Тант / Thant
Тант / Thant Main Hero Тант / Thant
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Сопряжение / Conflux Faction Сопряжение / Conflux
Луна / Luna Start Hero Луна / Luna
Луна / Luna Main Hero Луна / Luna
Map Template
Mini-Nostalgia
Game Length
135 days
Game Date
12/20/2018
Reported
12/20/2018 9:51 AM
Rating Impact Archived
De_Luxe 1918 1930 +12 ↑
HellLighT 1854 1842 -12 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 12/22/2018 2:32 PM

In reply to Sav
7 years ago
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explored the terrain, realized he was losing, went and rage-quit...
thanks for the game
Battle Report Accepted
Некрополь / Necropolis Faction Некрополь / Necropolis
Тант / Thant Start Hero Тант / Thant
Тант / Thant Main Hero Тант / Thant
Поражение / Lose Поражение / Lose
Сопряжение / Conflux Faction Сопряжение / Conflux
Луна / Luna Start Hero Луна / Luna
Луна / Luna Main Hero Луна / Luna
Map Template
Diamond
Game Length
123 days
Game Date
12/20/2018
Reported
12/20/2018 9:52 AM
Rating Impact Archived
De_Luxe 1962 1942 -20 ↓
HellLighT 1810 1830 +20 ↑
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 12/22/2018 2:33 PM

In reply to Sav
7 years ago
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I haven't played this template much, so I'm not a fan.. it gave some own fat loot - small stuff in the super treasure zone of 2 Dragon Utopias, but with 3 there is full control... thanks for the game
Battle Report Accepted
Некрополь / Necropolis Faction Некрополь / Necropolis
Видомина / Vidomina Start Hero Видомина / Vidomina
Видомина / Vidomina Main Hero Видомина / Vidomina
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Сопряжение / Conflux Faction Сопряжение / Conflux
Луна / Luna Start Hero Луна / Luna
Луна / Luna Main Hero Луна / Luna
Map Template
Nostalgia
Game Length
126 days
Game Date
12/20/2018
Reported
12/20/2018 9:55 AM
Rating Impact Archived
De_Luxe 1909 1922 +13 ↑
HellLighT 1863 1850 -13 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 12/22/2018 2:33 PM

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7 years ago
tfp!
Battle Report Accepted
Подземелье / Dungeon Faction Подземелье / Dungeon
Гуннар / Gunnar Start Hero Гуннар / Gunnar
Гуннар / Gunnar Main Hero Гуннар / Gunnar
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Сопряжение / Conflux Faction Сопряжение / Conflux
Гриндан / Grindan Start Hero Гриндан / Grindan
Гриндан / Grindan Main Hero Гриндан / Grindan
Map Template
6lm10a
Game Length
134 days
Game Date
12/21/2018
Reported
12/21/2018 7:58 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Tyranuxus 1757 1779 +22 ↑
saneok 1941 1919 -22 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 12/21/2018 7:59 PM

In reply to De_Luxe
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7 years ago
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De_Luxe
I got lucky and won on the first try with teleport, considering the good roads. Thanks for the game.
Thank you for the game.
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De_Luxe
explored the map, realized he was losing, and rage-quit...
thanks for the game
Thank you for the game.
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De_Luxe
I haven't played this template much, so I'm not a fan.. it gave some fat loot - in the super treasure zone there are 2 Dragon Utopia small items, but with 3 full control... thanks for the game
thanks for the game

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