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Does anyone know where I can download Heroes of Might and Magic III?
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kamukag3e
I also noticed that at this link http://heroes3stat.appspot.com/rating, I have 258 games played, but in this ranking, there is one game less - 257.

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The number of games is actually 258 in both rankings, meaning the total is simply calculated incorrectly in this ranking.

Most players in this ranking have significantly more games than in the one at the link. And I trust this one more:
for example, the Ihromanta ranking doesn't display 5 games in a row (from November 19 to November 28, 2017), but this ranking has them all.
Perhaps your problem lies in a single draw.
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Regarding the rating system, there are some issues with it on the website. For example, if we open the detailed statistics for FTS and look at his last 8 games, we see 5 losses and 3 wins. Then, we look at the rating change graph, and the last line clearly points upwards. How is it possible that Vanya still has 2099 rating points after his recent losing streak? Also, in my opinion, it would be more convenient to have information about how much rating was gained or lost in each game.
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And please, bring back the Azure Dragon to the signature.
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LuckyF
Regarding the rating, there are also questions about the one on the website. For example, we open the detailed statistics for FTS and look at his last 8 games, in which there are 5 losses and 3 wins, and then we look at the rating change graph, where the last line clearly goes up. How is it possible that Vanya still has 2099 rating after his last losing streak? And in general, in my opinion, it is inconvenient that there is no information about how much rating was added or subtracted for each game.
This is an FTS feature :D He wanted to leave with a 2100 rating.
Several games for July 24 were drawn on the graph, although the last report is from July 13.
This is a tribute to the Champion!!! :cool:
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Both ratings are still a bit rough, so the community should ideally support both authors – both the Creator and the Gamer.
Right now, we have a chance for a bright future because, by looking at both, we can find errors faster and have a chance to fix them.

I would also suggest that those who are reviewing become more detailed in their assessments. For example, when Kamikaze points out that the Creator is missing one of his games, they should find that game and report it specifically to the Creator.
When Korovka can't find 5 of her games with the Gamer, they should send him those 5, or at least one. This will make it much easier for them to find and fix specific errors in their own work.
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korovka1987
Perhaps your problem lies in a single draw result.
The draw result in both rankings is taken into account in the final result, but one victory is not counted, although the report itself is present, meaning the problem lies in the mathematics of calculating the final results.

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For example, when a kamikaze writes that the Creator doesn't have one of his games, find that game and report it specifically to the Creator.
The point is that the Creator and Ichromancer both have all the games, but in the Creator's ranking, one game is simply not added to the total score and the total number of victories. This may affect the calculation of the number of ranking points, or it may not. Without seeing how the points are calculated in the Creator's ranking, this cannot be understood.
艰难获胜 herolwy
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According to the Creator's rating:
I wanted to know how many wins/losses I have for a specific castle.
When selecting a castle in the Player city filter, it selects not only my reports but also the opponent's reports for that castle, and the player who wrote the first report is displayed in the Player column. In cases where I confirmed the report while playing for the selected castle, it is not displayed.
Ideally, either the Player column should display my nickname in each row (as it was in the previous rating and currently for Ihromanta), or the filter should also extract my nickname from the Rival column.
If you add your nickname to the Player column in the filter, it removes other players' reports, but the reports I confirmed for the selected castle are still not displayed.
The same situation occurs with Heroes.

It would also be great to add +/- for each game; it's very much needed.

And one more question: what determines morale?
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LuckyF
There are also questions about the ranking system on the website. For example, let's open the detailed statistics for FTS and look at his last 8 games, in which he had 5 losses and 3 wins, and then look at the graph of the rating change, where the last line clearly goes up. How could Vanya have 2099 rating after his recent losing streak? And in general, I think it's inconvenient that there is no information about how much rating was added or subtracted for each game.
Indeed, the change dynamics look like this: 2065, 2077, 2088, 2099. Apparently, the rating was simply calculated in the wrong order. It is possible (I'm not claiming this for sure) that the calculation is done in descending (or ascending) order of tournament themes. And I would also like to see the change dynamics for each report to have a complete picture.
korovka1987
And another question, what does morale depend on?
It depends on the leadership skill, artifacts that affect morale, and so on.

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Also, a list of all unconfirmed reports is very much needed. :rolleyes:
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A decent option would be to simply round manually to the nearest "50," and then recalculate everything from that point onward, making it neat and clear (as was done in the lobby, for example). It's unlikely that anyone would be too concerned about 10-20 rating points at this specific moment. At the same time, this would allow for improving the rating calculation system without compromising existing data.
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It's about leveling up the leadership skill, artifacts that affect morale, and so on:
Probably, something went wrong.
It seems the discussion was about the morale system on the forum.
http://forum.heroesworld.ru/faq.php?faq=hw_help_system#faq_hw_help_system_war_spirit
Now it's almost dead. Previously, you could see in a post who was upvoting and downvoting. And now, interest in this factor has completely disappeared among the public.
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By the way, publicly expressing gratitude for a post is a really great thing. I'm not so sure about publicly expressing hate.
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http://www.heroesworld.ru/rating/?player=42820

My two latest defeats by De_Luxe are visible in the table, but they are not reflected in the General ranking.

Links to reports:
/topic/at/1127921/
/topic/at/1127922/

I can't view De_Luxe's rating; the page freezes.
http://www.heroesworld.ru/rating/?player=12406

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Another suggestion: on a player's rating page, the first column of the table should always display player_name lose/def other_player_name, regardless of who wrote the report.

That is, my rating should show Nodl lose De_Luxe, and not De_Luxe win Nodl
discord: Nodl#5086
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rebellious
Probably, something glitched.
It seems the discussion was about the morale system on the forum.
http://forum.heroesworld.ru/faq.php?faq=hw_help_system#faq_hw_help_system_war_spirit
It's practically dead now. Previously, you could see who was upvoting and downvoting a post. And now, people have lost interest in this feature.
sir Davos Seaworth
If you're referring to the morale level on the forum, here's the description (I spent a long time looking for it myself):

http://forum.heroesworld.ru/faq.php?faq=hw_help_system#faq_hw_help_system_war_spirit

Thank you, gentlemen. Here's a + for your morale ;)

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