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2 Al Feyn

Delving into state policy risks having this discussion removed as spam, so it's better to focus on the realities of the game. For example, how the principle described above works in real-life situations.

Example #1 - organizing the CIS championship

Looking through the points in the list, it's clear that all 6 points are met here. Therefore, democracy is possible here.

And practice confirms this - this event has been held for 9 years through spontaneous self-organization, each time to everyone's satisfaction. And even if some disputes arise, they are due to an excess of enthusiasm and do not lead to serious consequences.

The only semi-exception is when, in 2017, when determining the location, a Schism almost occurred, and the rhetoric immediately began: "forget this democracy, the organizers need to agree among themselves." In full accordance with the theory outlined above... :)

Example #2 - developing HotA

Here, the situation is different - points #1, #2, #3, and partially #5 are not met (for other reasons). Therefore, democracy should be difficult here.

Again, practice confirms this - the development of HotA is carried out in a closed mode, and content is dictated from above.
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8 years ago
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I'd like to see more; I'm tired of waiting for the continuation (it's more interesting than any TV series).
8 years ago
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well, anything will do :confused: what are you looking at? ))

A real detective story - 1. Fargo Season 2 and Fargo Season 1.
The Young Pope (this one might be even better, but only for those who were interested in what Mark Aurelius and I were talking about).

This discussion is very poor compared to such series.
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8 years ago
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Wrestling tetons :D

8 years ago
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Wicc
This is rhetoric from the 1990s. The events of the last 15 years have clearly shown that democracy has a tendency to turn into a "swan, crab, and pike" situation.
This has been clear to everyone who understands the issue since the 19th century. But the image itself – "You govern, we only serve the people" – is ultimately appealing to the electorate. And I'm not talking about the results, but specifically about user loyalty. A little [del]hypocrisy[/del] friendly attention to the needs of users has never hurt anyone.
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This was clear to everyone who understood the situation even back in the 19th century. But the image itself – "You decide, we only serve the people" – is ultimately appealing to the electorate. And I'm not talking about the results, but specifically about user loyalty.
A little [del]hypocrisy[/del] friendly attention to the needs of users hasn't hurt anyone yet.
That's true. That's why new leaders often position themselves as more democratic than their predecessors. And then, whatever happens, happens.

But the established leaders don't have that resource; everyone already knows everything about them, so the most sensible step is to be honest – to explain in which areas democracy is possible in their opinion, and in which it is not.
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Regarding democracy and dictatorship, I would still like to argue, but I don't want to add fuel to the fire that has already died down. I'll just say this: I don't agree with Wicc. And I'll add that reading the last ** pages was interesting in places, so you didn't waste your time writing all this, don't worry. :)
Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було…
(Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)
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I'll put it simply: I agree with Wicc.
Just so it doesn't seem like everyone here is against it.
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To put it simply: I agree with Wicc.
And in what exactly? As Dud says, name the THREE MAIN POINTS in which you agree with Wicc. Please don't take this as an attack; it's said with a friendly tone, just to understand what exactly we're talking about. We've written quite a lot here in the last couple of weeks.
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that feeling when you wanted to say something "simple", but Al Feyn noticed it LUL
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What exactly are you referring to?
As Dud says, name the THREE MAIN POINTS in which you agree with Wick.
I haven't read it, I'm just getting a feeling based on what I've read before and in other topics. I'm actually surprised he's not in the AK yet; it would be interesting to see.... A dictator is better than family clans!)
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Dirty_Player
This rule does not apply when attacking a town/village.
AlFeyn asked a question about this rule back on 02.06.2013!
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The rules contain the following clause:
5.1. The so-called "red rush" is prohibited, meaning that a player playing as red is not allowed to attack on the first day of the week with reinforcements purchased on that day:
a) against a blue Castle (even if the Castle is not guarded)
b) against blue heroes or guarded mines, if the presence of reinforcements can affect the outcome of the battle or losses in the battle for either player.

Question - why is there a difference between clauses a and b?
What is the deep meaning behind this?
Why are there stricter requirements for attacking a Castle?
And the outcome of this game determines whether a team of 5 will advance to the semi-finals. The teams were tied 1-1, and in the decisive third match, it was 2-2. Is it considered normal to penalize for such a violation in such an important game? Faria clearly bought the blue color to defend against a red rush on 211 against a village with units, right.
In Miron's message, which Sanin is strangely deleting instead of just deleting the "insults," there was also constructive feedback. There are no rules regarding mirror matches in the competition.

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The second question, which also involves Sanin and Faria.
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The tables have been updated. The deadline for the two matches in the 1/2 stage is June 4th.

An ODD (one-on-one duel) has been scheduled for the match between Xocenk and Faria on May 13th at 6:00 PM Moscow time. The minimum game time is 5 hours; if one player is more than an hour late, a technical defeat will be awarded.
On what basis can an ODD be requested before the start of the stage (and not only)? We had no agreement on a game, especially with my absence! Why is Sanin siding with Faria? One can only guess. Yes, I eventually agreed to this ODD. I don't see the point in deviating if I can play. But there is no proper regulation for ODDs!
And what is the penalty if one of the opponents leaves the game before 5 hours have passed?
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