Orcs have no magic. Warcries. — Stronghold

Александр Г.К.

19 years ago

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Personally, at THIS moment ;) , I think the lack of magic for Orcs is a crime, because no shout can replace the good old Armageddon and Meteor Shower... My defense of this opinion is as follows: I think everyone remembers the useless skill in the game - the SUPER ability of Heaven... What if something similar happens with the Orcs? Even throwing goblins won't help here :D What do YOU think about this? It is quite possible that the Orcs will have magic-related (Chaos, summoning, etc.) abilities removed from their skill tree and replaced with other "Shout Styles" - "Call of Fury," for example, will increase the effect of the "Fury" ability, and upgrading the skill will increase this "help" from the skill itself... (But if a "Blessed Mat" call appears with a corresponding skill, then this will be the most popular skill :) ) I read somewhere that the ability to Shout a call is influenced by something like "Rage level" or "Adrenaline"... Like, until it accumulates during a battle, you won't be able to use anything from the calls... It reminds me of the Vikings' "Lightning Strike" (blessing of the gods) in the Age of Myths... In addition, another question arises: if an Orc picks up a magic book, will he be able to use it? :smile45: After all, magic and knowledge exist, but Orcs (apparently, according to information from sources) don't have mana... People! If anyone knows or thinks something about this, please share your information! Thank you in advance.

Эй, ты, простой смертный, хошь стать Хранителем Силы?))) :smile49: Ты уверен, что знаешь, в чем Сила?

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Necronix

19 years ago

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Well, in my opinion, it's actually good that there's no magic – we focus on leveling up defense and attack. Rage, warcries, a powerful hero-warrior – that's what a combat-oriented faction needs. If you need magic, take Dungeon, and there are no problems here; it's a matter of preference, in my opinion. It's hard to imagine an Orc casting Armageddon.

А ты записался добровольцем в STORM?:cool:

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Александр Г.К.

19 years ago

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in my opinion, it's actually good that there's no magic – we focus on leveling up defense and attack. Rage, warcries, a powerful hero-warrior – that's what a combat faction needs. If you need magic, take Dungeon, and there are no problems here; it's a matter of preference, in my opinion. It's hard to imagine an Orc casting Armageddon :)

You either need to buckle down or, on the contrary, relax and have a smoke... :D There's bound to be a way for people like me to teach an Orc to cast Armageddon... :smile07: :D :D :D :smile42:

Эй, ты, простой смертный, хошь стать Хранителем Силы?))) :smile49: Ты уверен, что знаешь, в чем Сила?

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Arandor

19 years ago

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they made it once, so it will replace it
maybe it will be tough for mages... but dwarves will be the best to counter them)) most likely))

good that they at least made the summons)) because in the 4th game it wasn't very good))

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Amko

19 years ago

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They made it once, so it will replace something.
Maybe it will be tough for mages... but dwarves will be the best to counter them.))

Good that they at least made the Barbarians. In Heroes 4, they weren't very good.

Yes, they will replace something... and it will be even stronger than the dwarves! Did you see the Barbarian's starting stats? They start with the THIRD level of Fury! Plus, they have shamans in their army - they cast Haste, Slow, and other useful spells. :) And instead of magic, they have skills with antimagic for different schools. Plus, there is a known ability that reduces the spell power of the enemy hero-caster by the amount of spell power the Barbarian has. :) In general, Orcs are a force to be reckoned with! And a very rough one! :cool:

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Святой_Паладин

19 years ago

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Orcs don't have magic?
Excellent – we shouldn't forget that orcs are equivalent to barbarians, who never had magic and never could have.
It makes the game more interesting and challenging.

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Amko

19 years ago

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Do Orcs have no magic?
Excellent - we shouldn't forget that Orcs are equivalent to Barbarians, who never had magic and never could have.
It makes the game more interesting and challenging.

More interesting... but not more challenging. The balance won't allow it. :)

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Святой_Паладин

19 years ago

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More interesting... but not more complex. The balance won't allow it. :)

And it's good that it's not more complex...
Hopefully, the Orcs will turn out to be a decent race, and not a weak and atrophied one.
But, this can only be verified in practice, IMHO.

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Amko

19 years ago

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It’s good that it’s not more complicated...
Hopefully, the Orcs will turn out to be a decent race, and not a weak and atrophied one.
But, we’ll only be able to check this in practice, IMHO.

Well, judging by what the expansion gave us, this race will be at least a strong one. :D

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Kreesanya

19 years ago

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There won't be any magic, but the racial skills of the Orcs risk becoming an overpowered advantage in battle compared to other races – if the descriptions of their "war cries" and various "rages" are to be believed... In short, there will be no way to counter the Orcs. :D

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З.Ы: кадилом по голове не бить.

З.З.Ы: А вот у нас в Шио....:D

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Amko

18 years ago

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There won't be magic, but the racial skills of the Orcs risk becoming an overpowered advantage in battle, compared to other races - if the descriptions of their "war cries" and various "rages" are to be believed... In short, there will be no stopping the Orcs. :D

Also, don't forget that Orcs can buy amulets and use travel magic with them, so they are not completely devoid of magic. :)

In my opinion, Dark Elves will have the hardest time against Orcs, because in the case of the Academy, it is difficult (or impossible :) ) to predict what kind of magic they will focus on... but Dark Elves either focus on Chaos, or Chaos with Summoning, or (if it's Lethos) Darkness. :) It will be difficult for them against Inferno... I don't know what kind of magic Inferno will focus on (they can focus on any of the four ;) ), or they might not focus on magic at all, limiting themselves to Surprise Attack, Cursed Sign, and Haste. :cool:

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Смок

18 years ago

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This will be great!
Hooray, a purely combat-focused race!...Exactly how I wanted the orcs to be!...It's done!...

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Holy_Paladin;109130

Do orcs have no magic?
Excellent - we shouldn't forget that orcs are the equivalent of barbarians, who never had magic and couldn't have.
It's more interesting and challenging to play that way.

NEVER HAD!??
REMEMBER AT LEAST THE THIRD GAME, THE BATTLE MAGES, AREN'T THEY MAGIC USERS? BARBARIANS ALWAYS HAD PRIESTS AND SHAMANS. AND IN THE WORLD OF ASHAN, BARBARIANS DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE...

Ничего нет только у мёртвого - у живого есть хотя бы жизнь...

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Святой_Паладин

18 years ago

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THERE WASN'T!?
REMEMBER AT LEAST THE THIRD GAME, THE BATTLE MAGES, AREN'T THEY MAGES? BARBARIANS ALWAYS HAD PRIESTS AND SHAMANS. AND IN THE WORLD OF ASHAN, BARBARIANS DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE...

I mean the traditional representation - let's remember the fourth game ;-)
After all, the fifth game continues the series after the fourth part, although, I don't deny that it is more similar to the third game).

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Смок

18 years ago

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I mean the traditional concept – let's remember the fourth game ;-)
After all, the fifth game continues the series after the fourth part, although, I don't deny that it is more similar to the third game.

Then you should remember the first Heroes.

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Arandor

18 years ago

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the lack of magic makes it resemble the 4th installment,
while everything else is like the 3rd game.)

and there's no need to be afraid that the AI will be too strong; they'll release patches later, like 3.1, 3.2, and so on.)
and it will be interesting to see how they handle battles against the dwarves.)

P.S. The answer options are kind of strange... it's hard to choose.

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