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Night Nazgul;100873
Well, in Heroes 3, there was snow in the Fortress, on the mountain peaks. And also, take a look at the map of Erathia, in the area of the Silver Cities, there are mountains, and there is snow on their peaks. There was probably more snow before, but it just melted; global warming, folks. :D
By the way, snow only occupies a small part of the Fortress. There is snow only in a few mountain ranges in the southwest, on the coast. The rest is desert!
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XEL;108952
By the way, snow only occupies a small part of Bracad. There is snow only in a few mountain ranges in the southwest, on the coast. The rest is mostly desert!
Yes, but the thing is that the mages live in those highlands, which is why the castles in Heroes 3 are located in the snow, and Celesta is also located in the mountains, and this is the capital of the mages, where the glowing castle is located, in which Magnus lives, and it is also located on a mountain, so there are enough mountains, and only red dwarves live in the desert, who dig tunnels there to the nearest mountains, and golems, who guard the area from necromancers.
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You're not entirely correct. Mages also live in the desert. There are many buildings with mages there. And it's not just golems; there are inhabitants. The highlands are located on the southwestern coast of the country, but there are also mountains in the desert. Snow in the highlands is, naturally, in the higher parts and mountain valleys. Mages also live there. And Celeste is not located on the mountains (although, judging by the picture, the city may be built on a mountain, which, like it, is in the sky), but floats under the clouds.
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XEL;108957
You're not entirely right. Mages also live in the desert. There are many buildings with mages there. And it's not just golems. There are inhabitants. The Highlands are located on the southwestern coast of the country, but there are also mountains in the desert. There is snow in the Highlands, naturally, in the higher parts and mountain valleys. Mages also live there. And Celeste is not located on mountains (although, judging by the picture, the city may be built on a mountain, which, like itself, is in the sky), but floats under the clouds.
well, the other inhabitants also live there, these are either idealists or the poorest segments of the population, and judging by the map, but Celeste, according to the description, in Might and Magic 7 is located in the mountains, and in the intro to the glowing Castle, it is located on a mountain, so it is obvious that this city is in the sky, but its power beams are focused on these mountains, which support the Fortress in the air. And this means that there are mountains in the entire Bracada, and they are snow-covered, because in the intro there is a mountain with snow, therefore in all missions in Heroes 3 related to the cities of mages, they are located in the snow.
I didn't notice any mountains near the Academy; the Castle floats in the clouds... maybe I missed something, but snow is still nonsense!!! !!! PISOK - ROCKS!!!
comrade, this user meant not Heroes 5, but Heroes 3, and he replied to the topic because it is called "Race Metamorphosis".
In my opinion, there shouldn't be any snow at all!!! After all, both Nagas and Rakshasas are from India... Everything has been clear about Djinns for a long time. Titans are supposedly from Ancient Greece. And where is the snow there? Maybe snow is more beautiful, but in my opinion, it's complete nonsense. ...And the fact that they are on elephants, well, that's not a big deal... Let them be on elephants rather than camels... Although they could have come up with something more beautiful, like white tigers or something else.
but there was snow, in Heroes 3, in Heroes 4, where there were Djinns and Titans, and by the way, Ancient Greece is not a desert, so there should also be some inconsistency here, and also, if Succubi were invented in Europe, but they are in Inferno, it doesn't mean that they would be suitable for people, even though they were invented there
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Why do you think that the poorest segments of the population live in the Brakad Desert? Not only the poorest. And also, there are no very high mountains in the Brakad Desert. They are located in the southwest. This can be seen if you look at the maps of Brakad in Might and Magic VII and the map of the southwestern part of Brakad in Heroes 3. And in the southwestern part, it's not just snow. Only in the highlands. But mages live both in the desert and in the mountains. Celeste floats in the clouds. The idea that this city is supported by mountains is a misconception. There are no such high and snow-covered mountains in the desert, and, judging by that picture, the mountain is located under the Shimmering Castle, and it also floats together with the entire city. And there is no description that Celeste is supported by mountains.
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XEL;108963
Why do you think that the poorest segments of the population live in the Brackad Desert? Not only the poorest. And also, there are no very high mountains in the Brackad Desert. They are in the southwest. This can be seen by looking at the Brackada maps in Might and Magic 7 and the map of the southwestern part of Brackada in Heroes 3. And in the southwestern part, it's not just snow. Only in the highlands. But mages live both in the desert and in the mountains. Celeste floats in the clouds. The idea that this city is supported by mountains is speculation. There are no such high and snow-capped mountains in the desert, and, judging by that picture, the mountain is located under the Shimmering Castle, and the oasis also floats along with the entire city. And there is no description that Celeste is supported by mountains.
Well, because all mages live in the mountains, in the heights, in Towers, so that they can practice magic and be inaccessible to all sorts of heroes and monsters. Now, look at the Brackada map in Might and Magic 7; all the houses and shops are located on mountains, even though they are small there. The developers simply didn't want to make a "peak of communism" for each house, so they are on an elevation. Only 6 houses are located in the desert. There is a description; carefully explore Brackada, and I remember that if not near the portal, then one of the NPCs tells the story of Celeste. And another question: then, why is there a mountain near the Shimmering Castle in your opinion? Why keep it in the air? And the fact that there are clouds there does not mean that the mountain ends; it shows the height of the mountain. Celeste is located high, and the castle is not shimmering, but glowing. I think we got a little carried away; I suggest that we continue the discussion in the Might and Magic 7 topic
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I remember that description. It specifically talks about the history of Celesta, when the city was founded, and who built it. It doesn't mention that it's located on a mountain. Regarding the desert – consider the scale, because in Might and Magic, there's something called SCALE, meaning you travel through cities and settlements of Bracadia (and not the entire Bracadia, even the desert, is shown in Might and Magic VII), but it's impossible to fully represent this in the game. And the high mountains are located in the southwest, which is evident geographically. And I recently looked at that picture. It shows almost the entire mountain. And it's quite possible that on the mountain (which also floats, because you land in that part of the desert where there are practically no mountains at all), there's a Castle and the buildings around it, because, for example, the other buildings float. For example, the Labyrinth of Mist or the advisors' houses. So, Celesta is still floating in the clouds.
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XEL;109014
I remember that description. It tells the story of Celesta. About when the city was founded, when and by whom it was built. It doesn't say that it stands on a mountain. Regarding the desert, consider the dwellings to be deep, because in Might and Magic, there is such a thing as SCALE, that is, you travel through cities, settlements of Bracadia (and not all of Bracadia, even the desert, was shown in Might and Magic 7), but it is impossible to fully implement this in the game. And the high mountains are in the southwest, this is visible geographically. And I recently looked at this picture. It shows almost the entire mountain. And it is quite possible that the Castle and the buildings around it stand on the mountain (which also floats, because you land in that place in the desert where there are practically no mountains at all), since, for example, the other buildings float. For example, the Labyrinth of Mist or the houses of the advisors. So Celesta is still floating in the clouds.
Yes, the city is in the sky, but it is supported by mountains. There is a scale, that's why all the mountains are small there, and there is no snow because the mountains are very small. The walls of mist do not float in the clouds; there is a bridge leading to them, and they are located on the mountain. After all, in 1999, it was impossible to implement everything that was written, so they limited themselves to a small amount
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Magnus;108942
Well, mages have always lived in the mountains, and therefore it should be cold there, so snow is more appropriate. Why are dwarves barbarians? And can you imagine dwarves in the steppes? You have quite the imagination. And the eastern attire is the worst thing they did in Heroes 5; it's a pity for the mages :(

Dwarves are not barbarians....I don't understand why they gave dwarves snow....they should have gotten mountains....not snowy plains....
and mages are actually from eastern fairy tales; they made everything according to the principle of "a la Old Hottabych," and the mages are basically Hottabychs....
Свет - порождает Тьму, Тьма - порождает Свет....
Свет и Тьму - созидает Магия....
Магия - основа Мира...
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Kvintinius;109070
Dwarves aren't barbarians... I don't understand why dwarves were given snow... they should have gotten mountains... not snowy plains...
and the mages are exactly from eastern fairy tales; they made them according to the principle of "a la Old Hottabych," and the mages are generally just like Hottabych...
But how can you give them mountains? After all, mountains are not available as a landscape + dwarves have 2 native terrains - snow and dwarven dungeons. And the mages were unnecessarily made in the style of eastern fairy tales, and in general, why did Nival come up with stereotypes from life for the races? After all, the point of a game is to relax from life, to forget about all sorts of problems, but here you have people and mages; it would have been better to make them Greeks, and that would have looked better.
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Magnus;109108
How do you give them mountains? After all, mountains are not available as a landscape type, and Dwarves have 2 native terrains - snow and Dwarven dungeons. And the Mages were unnecessarily made based on Eastern fairy tales, and in general, why did Nival come up with stereotypes for races based on real life? After all, people play games to relax and forget about all sorts of problems, but here you have people and mages; it would have been better to make them Greeks, and that would have looked better.

Although, yes... you're right...)) but sand looks better, in my opinion.
Свет - порождает Тьму, Тьма - порождает Свет....
Свет и Тьму - созидает Магия....
Магия - основа Мира...
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I like everything there except for the gargoyles. And the sand is cool. I don't really like the snow (in the third game). And if you read books (like Tolkien) and watch similar movies and try to process it and somehow put it all together, then it's quite possible that dwarves live in the snow (mountains), and mages live in the sands. I like the idea of the Nival Interactive developers:smile01:.
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NID;109191
I like everything there except for the gargoyles.
And the sand is cool. I don't really like the snow (in the third game). And if you read books (like Tolkien's) and watch similar movies and try to process it and somehow put it all together, then it's quite possible that dwarves live in the snow (mountains), and mages live in the sands. I like the idea of the Nival Interactive developers.:smile01:
Okay, then please tell me where in the movies or in Tolkien's books do mages smoke hookahs, ride elephants, and look like old Hottabychs?
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Magnus;109240
Okay, then please tell me where in Tolkien's films or books do mages smoke hookahs, ride elephants, and look like old, hairy creatures?

Yeah. I agree about the hookah, but elephants are cool (even though they don't live in the desert). It would be great if they rode camels. And what do you imagine mages to be like? A naked woman riding a tank?:smile14:

These are the decisions of the Nival developers. They imagined mages like this since their difficult childhood:) and when they had the opportunity, they realized their dream. Then, Heroes is just a computer fairy tale... the Nival developers just fantasized.

You can also criticize the dark elves. Why a dinosaur? Have you ever seen a DINOSAUR underground? I haven't. I also haven't seen elephants in the desert...
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In the Sahara, there are elephants, or rather, in the savanna, where there is sand everywhere in Africa.

I agree that the Mages look more like Hottabychs than the mages from Tolkien...

Apparently, the developers didn't want the Warlocks to be too similar to other factions and wanted to diversify the landscape (otherwise, the mages would also be in meadows or snow) and to emphasize the connection between the race and the landscape.

(Don't forget that the game was also made for Americans, "it's just cool").
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