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Don't take offense, guys, but it's clear that you lack experience in organizing tournaments, and you react very negatively to all comments on this topic.

I haven't noticed this trend in myself or in other organizers. We don't hide the fact that this is our first tournament as organizers, and we don't actually have any experience. Kirill's and many other people's advice is heard and accepted if it doesn't contradict our views on the format of the future tournament.

We have already clearly thought out the format, and it includes the PEST mod. We don't aim to please and flatter all the veterans of Heroic tournaments with our format and regulations. We want to organize our own unique format with live broadcasts, action, and dynamics, so that it is interesting to watch. It's pointless to ask TE players for advice on how to make streams more interesting and dynamic, since games on TE are unrealistically boring, monotonous, and long, which is confirmed by the number of viewers.

But regarding the rules, bugs, exploits, critical, or controversial moments in the tournament mod, please, speak up, because you are much more knowledgeable about this than we are.
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Guys, let's not argue. We need to help the organizers, not attack them. Our community is already small...
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Guys, let's not argue. We need to help the organizers, not attack them. Our community is already small...

I completely agree. It seems like this is the first tournament for Heroes 5 in a very long time? In any case, Remix and Samvan are doing a great job just by taking on this task. And experience comes with time.
Карты для героев 5

"Плата за любовь"
"Путь некроманта"
"Темные грани"
"Рок Гримхейма"
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It's pointless to ask tech support for advice on how to make streams more interesting and dynamic, since games in tech support are incredibly boring, monotonous, and long, which is confirmed by the number of viewers.

The audience for tech support streams is small because almost no one streams properly, with voice commentary, high-quality video, etc. Also, no one promotes their videos; many stream only on one channel, mainly Twitch. People simply don't know where and what to watch. The exception is Davniy and Alex; they at least stream with voice commentary, but rarely, and they haven't built up their audience. Not because it's uninteresting to wait for the opponent's turn.
Regarding Pest, well, I don't know. Adapting it to tournament games for results, and even with a monetary prize, is commendable, but, in my opinion, writing rules about this is time-consuming, tedious, and nuances will still arise.
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I completely agree. It seems like this is the first tournament for Heroes 5 in a very long time? In any case, Remix and Samvan are doing a great job just by taking on this task. And experience comes with time.
No, you're mistaken. A tournament specifically for Heroes 5 started 2 weeks ago in a neighboring thread. This is a tournament on a mod that is similar to TE, and such tournaments happen at least 1-2 times per quarter. Due to the organizers' lack of experience, they are not yet ready to change the skill wheel, but I predict that either this mod will die out or they will come to this idea. (The creators of all 3 of the most well-known mods currently also said at the beginning that they didn't want to change the skill wheel; they were all wrong. A mod is a mod because it allows you to improve the game at the skill level, and it's foolish to refuse this and chase after illusory newcomers.)
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Regarding PEST, well, I don't know. Adapting it for tournament games with a focus on results, and even with a monetary prize, is commendable, but, in my opinion, writing rules about it is a long, tedious process, and nuances will still emerge.

I understand your skepticism due to a conservative mindset and views on the game, but allow us to try. After all, there is a whole group of excellent players in the standard format, like Tigame, Slavyan, Assa, myself, and others, with a significant number of successfully played games with the PEST mod. It cannot be called an unplayable format. There are some drawbacks, like the need to click through things at the beginning of a turn, but in general, "unwritten" rules for playing with the PEST mod have already been developed, such as not attacking on the day of discovery. Therefore, we are not innovators, but rather borrowing what has already been tried and tested countless times before us.
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I understand your skepticism due to a conservative mindset and views on the game, but allow us to try.

My skepticism is based not on a conservative mindset, but on the number of games played with a mace, which was hardly less than those played with a sword; games with a mace were also played, and I know what it's like. But, I'll allow you to try. But I warned you).
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Ladies and gentlemen, registration is complete. The prize pool amounts to 7,500 rubles, and 15 people are participating in the tournament (including TE players, RTA players, and standard game enthusiasts). The draw will take place today, February 26th, at 2:00 PM Moscow time on this channel.
Мой канал по героям 5 - "Heroes for Fan"
Мой канал по King's Bounty - "Remix Play"
Моя группа по героям 5 - Здесь отвечу быстрее
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Hi everyone! I don't know where else I could express myself, so I'll post here... Tomorrow, after the draw, I'm ready to immediately start a match with my opponent. I don't know which group I'll be in or who I'll be matched against, but I just wanted to express my desire and readiness...
P.S.: Organizers, maybe you could create some kind of conference (VK, Skype). There aren't many players. And it would be more convenient to coordinate everything.
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Chapter!
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Tournament participants, please note the adjustments to the current rules (all changes have been added below the tournament bracket). Stream with the changes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccd1xEZ9D1g
Мой канал по героям 5 - "Heroes for Fan"
Мой канал по King's Bounty - "Remix Play"
Моя группа по героям 5 - Здесь отвечу быстрее
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Hello, forum members! If anyone is interested in participating as a judge in the "Redbeard Cup," please write in the comments or in my group: https://vk.com/heroesforfun. We would be happy to promote the Heroes game among a wider audience.
Мой канал по героям 5 - "Heroes for Fan"
Мой канал по King's Bounty - "Remix Play"
Моя группа по героям 5 - Здесь отвечу быстрее
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I would like to suggest a couple of changes to the rules for future tournaments. 1) Consider FFA matches and player loads in more detail. If one of the players has a load, they should be able to use it at any time, except for the moments when that particular player is directly engaged in a battle with an enemy. If other players are currently fighting, they should have a replay of their turns, as if they had disconnected, and the player who used the load can play as they wish. They should NOT, under any circumstances, be dependent on the unpredictable random battles between their opponents. 2) Provide full loads at all stages of the tournament. I understand that the reduced loads were introduced as an interesting innovation, but they have not proven to be effective. It seems a bit illogical from a gameplay perspective. This tournament promotes innovative solutions, but I ask you to consider that old and proven methods are not always bad.
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This tournament features active promotion of innovative solutions, but I would like you to consider that old and proven methods are not always bad.
Thank you for your comment; we will definitely take this feedback into account and discuss it as organizers.
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Мой канал по King's Bounty - "Remix Play"
Моя группа по героям 5 - Здесь отвечу быстрее
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I would like to suggest a couple of changes to the rules for future tournaments.
1) Consider FFA matches and player load times in more detail. If one of the players has a load, they should be able to use it at any time, excluding the moments when this particular player is directly engaged in a battle with an enemy. If other players are currently fighting, they should have a replay of their turns as if they had disconnected, and the player who used the load plays as they want; they should in NO WAY depend on the unpredictable randomness of battles between their opponents.
I would generally remove the 3-player game mode in FFA. There should be a one-on-one mode; otherwise, various negative insinuations are possible, for example, regarding one of the three players...
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