[HoMM V]9 Race - Swamp! Is it needed? — New ideas.

Лорд Сандро

19 years ago

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Why not! There is definitely room for a swamp race on the Ashan map, it's just that the lore of the Heroes 5 world somehow doesn't mention them:smile47:

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3DogMZA

19 years ago

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Tarnum;107549

But you almost repeated the story about the ogres, only there they are conquering the alliance.

I didn't repeat it. The orcs want to save their brethren from the slavery of humans and mages, and the demons want to conquer all of Ashan and rule it, and they decided to start with the remote islands, the wilderness. Lord Sandro did this because they were in isolation on their islands and did not interfere in battles, and besides, I came up with the idea to include them here, not Nival.:D

9 ДРАКОНОВ.
Асха - Порядок! Ургаш - Хаос! Силат - Воздух!
Шаласса - Вода! Аркат - Пламя! Силанна - Земля!
Сар-Илам - Дракон-Маг! Эльрат - Свет! Маласса - Тьма!

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Лорд Сандро

19 years ago

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3DogMZA;108117

I didn't repeat it. The Orcs want to save their brethren from slavery by humans and mages, and the demons want to conquer all of Ashan and rule it, so they decided to start with the remote islands, the wilderness. Lord Sandro, because they were in isolation on their islands and didn't interfere in battles, and besides, I came up with the idea to put them here, not Nival.:D

Since you came up with them:cool:, what should be the level 7 unit for the swamp faction?:confused:

:smile16: По Вере Вашей да будет Вам!:smile16:

:cool: Лорд Сандро - Консул Священной Империи и Некрополиса :cool:

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Arandor

19 years ago

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Lord Sandro;108347

Since you came up with them:cool:, what should be the Tier 7 unit for the Swamp faction?:confused:

...and the topic is hard to read?? <_<

Be strong. Believe

eXeCuToR

19 years ago

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It's really a shame that there's no swamp terrain in Heroes 5. That would be a fun addition. Maybe it will be included in the expansion pack.

Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis

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3DogMZA

19 years ago

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eXeCuToR;108425

It's really a shame that there isn't a swamp terrain in Heroes 5. It would be a fun addition. Maybe it will be in the expansion pack.

It would be nice if it were there, otherwise I'll have to create it myself. And that's extra work and problems. And without it, I'll have to put in some effort to create the Swamp, and now I also have to create the terrain.:( Everything will happen after September 28th. But don't rush into creating the Swamp right away. I'll finish the Tribes of the East campaign first, and then I'll get to work!:D

9 ДРАКОНОВ.
Асха - Порядок! Ургаш - Хаос! Силат - Воздух!
Шаласса - Вода! Аркат - Пламя! Силанна - Земля!
Сар-Илам - Дракон-Маг! Эльрат - Свет! Маласса - Тьма!

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Магистр

19 years ago

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3DogMZA;108456

It would be nice if it were already there, otherwise I'll have to create it myself. And that's extra work and problems. And without it, I'll have to put in some effort with the Swamp, and then I'll also have to create the terrain.:( Everything will happen after September 28th. But don't rush with the Swamp right away. I'll finish the Tribes of the East campaign first, and then I'll get to work!:D

Well, when you finish the Swamp, post it on the forum!:smile03:

:cool: Свет везде, где Я :cool:

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3DogMZA

19 years ago

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Magistr;108519

Well, once you finish the swamp, post it on the forum!:smile03:

Okay, I'll post it in a few years.:D I won't be doing it alone; I think you understand that. I'll gather everyone who wants to help with this, and a few programmer friends, and maybe find some designers, and then we'll see. I need to look at the structure of the Tribes of the East; if I don't find the answers there, I'll have to ask Nival for the source code. But that's the worst-case scenario.:)

9 ДРАКОНОВ.
Асха - Порядок! Ургаш - Хаос! Силат - Воздух!
Шаласса - Вода! Аркат - Пламя! Силанна - Земля!
Сар-Илам - Дракон-Маг! Эльрат - Свет! Маласса - Тьма!

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3DogMZA

18 years ago

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Once again, all creatures from the Swamp Fort, along with their upgrades!
Level 1 - Troglodyte (attacks with a spear, magic resistance (Blindness))!
Level 1 upgraded - Swamp Troglodyte (attacks with a spear, magic resistance (Blindness, Slow))!
Level 1 upgrade - Hell Troglodyte (attacks with a spear, 1 fiery spear attack, magic resistance (Blindness, Unholy Word))!
Level 2 - Lizard Archer (archer)!
Level 2 upgraded - Lizard Sharpshooter (archer, poison shot)!
Level 2 upgrade - Lizard Master (archer, shot that reduces movement range by 2 (only once per creature))!
Level 3 - Gnoll (attacks with a mace, stunning attack 30%)!
Level 3 upgraded - Gnoll Marauder (attacks with a mace, stunning attack 40%, double strike)!
Level 3 upgrade - Gnoll Captain (attacks with two swords, triple strike)!
Level 4 - Flying Serpent (large creature, flying)!
Level 4 upgraded - Three-Headed Serpent (large creature, flying, weakening attack 30%, attacks all creatures in front of it)!
Level 4 upgrade - Dragon Serpent (large creature, flying, weakening attack 40%, dragon's acid breath)!
Level 5 - Gorgon (large creature)!
Level 5 upgraded - Mighty Gorgon (large creature, fear)!
Level 5 upgrade - Ancient Gorgon (large creature, breath of death 35%)!
Level 6 - Medusa (archer, freezes nearby creatures 30%)!
Level 6 upgraded - Medusa Witch (archer, spellcaster (Slow, Ice Block spells), freezes nearby creatures 40%)!
Level 6 upgrade - Supreme Medusa (archer, direct shot passes through all creatures in its path, -2 to creature's movement range (only reduces once), freezes nearby creatures 45%)!
Level 7 - Basilisk (large creature, can climb over castle walls, freezes with its gaze nearby 50%)!
Level 7 upgraded - Plague Basilisk (large creature, can climb over castle walls, freezes with its gaze nearby 55%, plague bite 50% (Plague spell))!
Level 7 upgraded - Ancient Basilisk (large creature, can climb over castle walls, freezes with its gaze nearby 60%, casts "Weakness" and "Debilitate" spells)!
What do you think? :)

9 ДРАКОНОВ.
Асха - Порядок! Ургаш - Хаос! Силат - Воздух!
Шаласса - Вода! Аркат - Пламя! Силанна - Земля!
Сар-Илам - Дракон-Маг! Эльрат - Свет! Маласса - Тьма!

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Staropramen

18 years ago

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3DogMZA;109297

Once again, all the creatures of the Fortress, along with their upgrades!
Level 1 - Troglodyte (attacks with spears, magic resistance (Blinding))!
Level 1 upgraded - Swamp Troglodyte (attacks with spears, magic resistance (Blinding, Slowing))!
Level 1 upgrade - Hell Troglodyte (attacks with spears, 1 fiery spear throw, magic resistance (Blinding, Slowing, Unholy Word))!
Level 2 - Lizard Archer (archer)!
Level 2 upgraded - Lizard Marksman (archer, poison shot)!
Level 2 upgrade - Lizard Master (archer, poison shot, shot that reduces movement range by 1)!

I haven't looked at the previous pages, so sorry if I'm repeating myself, but IMO, alternative upgrades should maintain the stability of the creatures or compensate, but not be so much stronger.

eXeCuToR

18 years ago

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Okay, I'll give you some advice))) And you do everything. Just don't forget about me; I'll be representing the voice of the people.
By the way, it would be better to make the Gnolls with swords. It looks cooler – especially at level 3. :smile13:

Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis

Arandor

18 years ago

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yeah, the second upgrade is better than the first one))
but maybe the first one has better stats...

Be strong. Believe

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Лорд Сандро

18 years ago

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eXeCuToR;109359

Alright, I'll give you some advice))) And you do everything. Don't forget about me, I'll be representing the voice of the people.
By the way, it would be better to make Gnolls with a sword. It looks cooler - especially at level 3.:smile13:

No, Gnolls with a trident will look cooler!:cool: :cool: :cool:

:smile16: По Вере Вашей да будет Вам!:smile16:

:cool: Лорд Сандро - Консул Священной Империи и Некрополиса :cool:

Arandor

18 years ago

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Which sword?! There are already so many swords! Every castle has swordsmen.
And the trident is completely irrelevant. =)
The mace is the best.
As for the lizardmen, maybe it's an alternate upgrade with something that looks like a militia unit.
I have a picture.

Be strong. Believe

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3DogMZA

18 years ago

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Staropramen;109325

I haven't looked at the previous pages, so sorry if I'm repeating myself, but IMO, alternative upgrades should maintain the stability of creatures or compensate for it, but not be so much stronger.

Level 1 - Troglodyte (attacks with a spear, magic resistance (Blindness))!
Level 1 improved - Swamp Troglodyte (attacks with a spear, magic resistance (Blindness, Slow))!
Level 1 upgrade - Hell Troglodyte (attacks with a spear, 1 fire spear attack, magic resistance (Blindness, Unholy Word))!
Level 2 - Lizard Archer (archer)!
Level 2 improved - Lizard Sharpshooter (archer, poison shot)!
Level 2 upgrade - Lizard Master (archer, shot that reduces movement range by 2 (only once per creature))!
Level 3 upgrade - Gnoll Captain (attacks with two swords, triple strike)!
Level 5 upgrade - Ancient Gorgon (large creature, death breath 35%)!
I changed what I wanted and slightly weakened the alternative upgrades!:)

9 ДРАКОНОВ.
Асха - Порядок! Ургаш - Хаос! Силат - Воздух!
Шаласса - Вода! Аркат - Пламя! Силанна - Земля!
Сар-Илам - Дракон-Маг! Эльрат - Свет! Маласса - Тьма!