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I completely agree; an entire vampire race wouldn't be suitable for the Heroes of Might and Magic 5 universe... Besides, what would happen to the Necromancers that already exist? There would be some inconsistency!
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Making a vampire race would be pointless; they already performed well in Necromancer. It's better to focus on the Swamp faction, then the Elementals, and we'll see what happens after that. It would be better to incorporate werewolves somewhere else rather than making them a separate vampire race. :rolleyes:
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Vampires performed well in the Necromancer faction, right? I don't see anything particularly great about them. Compared to the fourth game, they don't stand out at all. Vampires have always been strong creatures, and their placement on the 4th level of the city personally offends me, as I'm not just a fan, but a huge admirer of them.
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Vampires performed well in the Necromancer faction, didn't they? I don't see anything particularly great about them. Compared to the fourth game, they don't measure up at all. Vampires have always been strong creatures, and their placement on the 4th level of the city personally offends me, as I'm not just a fan, but an admirer of them.
But what level should they be placed on then? They definitely don't deserve the 6th level, and you can't push Liches from the 5th level.
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This is a very interesting discussion, and we should clarify everything and put a definitive end to it: 1. Vampires and ghouls – are they undead or a caste of the cursed (by the way, they are the most beloved creatures in the fantasy world)? 2. Vampires are divided into: - Living - Undead - Ancient 2.1. Living vampires walk around in broad daylight and look like ordinary people, although they drink blood, and they can be paralyzed by driving a stake through their heart, which disrupts their energy center. Or, you can make sure all their blood is drained, after which they become undead vampires. 2.2. Undead vampires are killed by beheading (sticking the severed head with garlic) and sunlight. 2.3. Ancient vampires drink the blood of vampires. Undead vampires have a functioning brain and heart; if they didn't, they wouldn't be able to drink blood... And yes, in almost all movies, undead vampires are mentioned, but I once saw a movie with living vampires (I don't remember the name, it was a long time ago, about 8-10 years, something like "Vampire Textbook"), and there were also undead ones... Nimizida explained all this; we had a discussion on the topic of fantasy 2 years ago, and he found this information on the internet in a library of fantastic creatures. Of course, I might have missed something, and maybe Nimizida would have explained it better, but he's not here right now. As for the strength of vampires in Heroes and the fantasy world, they are balanced correctly. A vampire is not stronger than a Black Knight or a Lich; think about it: a Black Knight can be killed by destroying his armor, and a Lich is protected by magic; a vampire cannot cope with that. I hope this closes the discussion.
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As for the strength of vampires in Heroes and the fantasy world, they are appropriately balanced.
A vampire is not stronger than a black knight or a lich; think about it. A black knight can be defeated by destroying his armor, and a lich is protected by magic, which a vampire cannot overcome.

I hope this closes the discussion.
A vampire is not stronger than a lich? Why is that? Vampires can also learn magic; it's just that it wasn't implemented for them in the game. Moreover, ancient vampires have immense strength and, most importantly, speed – so fast that an ordinary person or even a low-level vampire wouldn't be able to notice them moving. A lich is undead; it's not alive and can only stand (or walk, but at a normal speed) and cast curses, which, by the way, don't affect vampires.
Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

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Agreed, he can learn spells just like any intelligent creature with willpower, whether it's a goblin, an elf, an orc, a lizard, etc. – it's all-powerful. The question of whether he's stronger or not is debatable, but in my opinion, a Lich is stronger than a vampire because he initially possesses magic. This is because a Lich is a person who has achieved perfection in necromancy and, by using it, has attained immortality. A Lich not only commands curse magic but also controls undead creatures of a lower order (skeletons, zombies). This isn't present in the game, which is a shame; extra resurrection magic wouldn't hurt. In the game, only an advanced vampire can drain life from everyone (an unadvanced one can't drain life from a Lich), and it won't reach the Lich, and the Lich attacks first, dealing more damage and having more health. And you'll agree that a Black Knight is stronger than a vampire...
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VAMPIRE, in the lower mythology of European peoples, is a dead person who sucks the blood of living people. They can appear in the form of a bat, and sometimes other "unclean" animals. Beliefs about vampires are especially common among Slavs and other peoples of Southern Europe. They partly originate from the ancient Hecate, empusas, and lamias. In Christian beliefs, vampires are unrepentant sinners, suicides, and those who died prematurely without repentance. A person who died from a vampire's bite can also become a vampire. According to the beliefs of the South Slavs, vampires prefer to suck the blood of their relatives. According to beliefs common in Great Russia, vampires, like werewolves, do not harm those who set out on a journey against their will. It was believed that by opening a vampire's grave, one could see that its corpse looked fresh and rosy. In Slavic beliefs, vampires are dealt with by driving an aspen stake into their heart, as well as shooting them with a charmed silver bullet. They are protected by the ringing of bells, garlic, iron, and cemetery (that is, consecrated) soil. In Western Europe, vampire stories became fashionable in the Gothic novel of the 18th century, and later among the Romantics. The story of Lord Byron's friend, W. Polidori, "The Vampire," was particularly popular. In Romania and Hungary, beliefs about vampires were influenced by legends about Dracula, as well as the crimes of real people, primarily Countess Bathory (17th century), who killed several dozen (possibly hundreds) of peasant girls in order to rejuvenate herself with their blood. After the appearance of Bram Stoker's novel "Dracula," both images firmly merged into one in mass European culture.
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A Lich won't be able to hit a Vampire; in the game, it happens, but Vampires have high speed and strength, so a Lich can't hit them. As for a Black Knight... I don't even know. It depends on the Vampire... they can be very different; some are weak, some are strong, and some are very, very strong, depending on their age. The older the Vampire, the stronger it is; if you take a Vampire that's a million years old, it could even defeat Satan himself.
Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

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A Lich won't be able to hit a Vampire; this happens in the game, but in reality, Vampires have high speed and strength, and a Lich won't be able to hit them. As for the Black Knight... I don't even know. It depends on the Vampire... they can be very different, some are weak, some are strong, and some are very, very strong, depending on their age. The older the Vampire, the stronger it is; if you take a Vampire that is a million years old, it could defeat even Satan himself.

Hehe, it hits in the game, but in reality...? Hmm, that's strange... I haven't seen Liches fighting Vampires))) Maybe they just aren't visible... and maybe they have special arenas)))
Regarding Satan... I doubt it))

P.S. None of them exist in reality. And there are many games, and they are different; in some, they are stronger, in others, weaker...

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Haha! Do they actually appear in the game? And in real life... hmm, that's strange... I haven't seen liches fighting vampires))) Maybe they just aren't visible... and maybe they have special arenas)))
As for Satan... I doubt it))

P.S. None of them actually exist. And there are many games, and they are different; in some, they are stronger, and in others, weaker...
That's right, but what do you think? How should they be in all games? Weak or strong?
Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

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all these creatures should not differ much from each other...
but there should also be different tiers) like a vampire or an ancient one, etc. (Disciples)) or different, like in Blood Masquerade... I don't remember the name, vampires something there)...
they should be stronger than an ordinary person, but not invincible)

P.S. these are the same types of creatures as elves, dwarves, etc.) almost))

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Well, Dwarves have big, muscular guys))) They are strong, like the Jarls on level 6. Elves have Druids, and they put them on level 4, which could be higher, because there are different types of Druids. I'm not saying that all Vampires are weak))) I'm not saying they are unbeatable, although there are some... but there are only a few of them. I'm saying that they were treated poorly in the game by putting them on level 4, and I won't even mention the Specters...
Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

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I didn't mean just the "Heroes" games.
I meant all games, RPGs and the like. Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Morrowind, and others.

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Well, if vampires are just another type of creature, like dwarves and elves, then why not let them create their own faction?
Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

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