Walkthroughs of standard maps, focusing on SPEED. — General

Белендор

13 years ago

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Chingis

Once, I was offered to play the map "Barbarian Raid."
I played it at one point, without HD Mod and not timed. It took me 20 days. I think it could be done faster.

I'm not including saves. I played like this:

Start with the brown faction, Dungeon. Shakti has 3 stacks of troglodytes.
Immediately get a lair with 8 wyverns and run to the first barbarian.
8 wyverns take down one enemy at a time. Then go to the second barbarian, and so on.
The difficulty lies more in the tunnels and gates (it takes a long time to run). But the ready-made barbarian armies don't pose any threat.

What about other factions? For example, the castle with angels?
Who could complete it in 20 days?

Heroes13

13 years ago

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I don't remember which city I was playing as when the barbarian invasion happened, but I cleared it in 11 days with the red faction. It should be possible to do it even faster with the brown faction.

Heroes13

12 years ago

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Today, I completed the Pandora's Box scenario in 17 days. I played as the blue faction, using the standard settings.

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mrshch

12 years ago

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heroes13

Today, I completed Pandora's Box in 17 days. I played as the blue faction using the standard settings.

Come on, how did you deal with the 500 black dragons? Or are we talking about different maps?

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Lider1

12 years ago

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mrshch

Come on, and what did you use to defeat 500 black dragons? Or are we talking about different maps?

And who said that they even need to be defeated? :D
After all, the Dimensional Door was invented for such purposes :D

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mrshch

12 years ago

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Lider1

Who said they even need to be defeated? :D
After all, the Dimensional Door is there for a reason. :D

Well, even 100 (or so) Archdevils aren't that easy to take down.
Especially since there are no taverns on the map.

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Although, there are 40-level heroes in the dungeons - were they using magic?

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Heroes13

12 years ago

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mrshch

Well, even 100 (or so) Archdevils aren't that easy to defeat.
Especially since there are no taverns on the map.

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Although, there are heroes in the dungeons, level 40 - were they using magic?

200 Archdevils + a treasure chest. In the dungeon, I freed a level 42 hero + an army of 50 gold dragons and all the others in ascending order. A level 42 hero with a spellbook can easily handle an army without a hero. And of course, I skipped over the black dragons; on the map, after the 10 demons, there are all the spellbooks + 3 good artifacts (helmet +6 all, hell sword, cursed shield). We immediately head for the artifacts, and then to the final goal; throughout the entire game, there are only two battles, with 10 demons and the final battle. There's no need to even try hard.

Marmot

12 years ago

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The desire to complete a map as quickly as possible can ruin all the fun of the game. I read somewhere about a researcher's discovery: the famous map To kill for Power can, apparently, be completed in about 20 minutes of real time, with almost no battles and without doing anything after obtaining the Portal of Dimensions. It made me sad... :(

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Lider1

12 years ago

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Marmot

The desire to complete a map as quickly as possible can kill all interest in the game. I read somewhere about a researcher's discovery: the famous map To kill for Power can, apparently, be completed in about 20 minutes of real time, with almost no battles and doing almost nothing after obtaining the Portal of Dimensions. It made me sad... :(

And what's so sad about that? That someone plays Heroes differently than you do?

Dirty_Player

12 years ago

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The fact that some map can be completed in 20 minutes is not a problem for the players, but for the map creator, who failed to consider and restrict the possibility of quickly obtaining Dimension Door. As for players seeking the optimal result—that is normal.

Marmot

12 years ago

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Lider1, Dirty_Player, we've already discussed this. Let me reiterate: the game was created not to compare sizes, but for enjoyment. To compare sizes, you don't need anything except the sizes themselves. :D
I'm currently playing a great map and want to tell you about it, but only after I finish it. And I can imagine how the efforts of PRO players will ruin all the interest in it.

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Heroes13

12 years ago

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Marmot

Lider1, Dirty_Player, we've already discussed this. I'll repeat: the game was created not to compare sizes, but for enjoyment. To compare sizes, you don't need anything but the sizes themselves. :D

That's how we enjoy the game. Destroying 3 AI opponents in 6 months has become boring, and these runs bring new interest to the game.

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Lider1

12 years ago

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Marmot

Lider1, Dirty_Player, we've already discussed this. I'll repeat: the game was created not to compare sizes, but for enjoyment. To compare sizes, you don't need anything but the sizes themselves. :D
I'm currently playing a really cool map, and I definitely want to tell you about it, but only after I finish it. And I can imagine how the efforts of PRO players will kill all interest in it.

Enjoyment is also a relative concept. Some people enjoy completing a map in 12 months, while others enjoy completing it in 12 days.

You remind me of my neighbor; if he doesn't eat raspberries, then no one should eat them, because they're bad. :D

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What I don't respect is any kind of bug exploitation. And I can't stand it when people play a hero, dismiss him, and then immediately buy him back in the tavern with a full movement allowance. That's just cheating.

Heroes13

8 years ago

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I'll revive this thread. It was evening, and there was nothing to do. Plus, I was laid off from work, and to avoid boredom while I look for new opportunities, I decided to play through some maps. It's the 21st century, so I even recorded a video!

The map "Goblins in the Pantry" in 5 days - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HizxVbsd8hQ

The goal of the map is to capture all the creature dwellings, but they are guarded by the same goblins, and there are a couple of squads of 500 of them! But there's a control spell for every creature. The downside is that I dragged it out a bit, 15 minutes for 5 days, and 15 minutes to kill two packs of goblins. I could have acted faster manually, but I was worried about their morale.