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Offline MerlinTheMagician
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This isn't a reason to distrust Vanya; otherwise, I wouldn't even play. The only problem with him is agreeing on a game; otherwise, at least I don't have any problems with him.
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But with this player, you can only get trouble.
And this is how a reader of the thread should understand what the "trouble" is.
For an outside reader, it looked like this: FTS suggested that a third party generate the game. Gomunguls refused. As a result, FTS agreed to Gomunguls' terms, but at the same time indicated that there would be a stream. Gomunguls refuses to stream. And he justifies this by saying that someone said something bad about him and someone is spoiling things.
And the words about the problems of agreeing on a specific time with this opponent appeared only now. Learn to formulate correctly, and you will be happy. And if not, don't be surprised that someone says something bad about you. Because what is not written and not added, everyone will interpret in their own way.
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP
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So, how should a reader of this thread understand what the real problem is?
To an outside observer, it looked like this: FTS suggested that a third party generate the match. Gomunculus refused. As a result, FTS agreed to Gomunculus's terms, but also stated that a stream would be required. Gomunculus refuses to stream, and justifies this by saying that someone said something bad about him and someone is spoiling things.
And the words about the difficulties of agreeing on a specific time with this opponent appeared only now. Learn to formulate things correctly, and you will be happy. And if not, don't be surprised that someone says something bad about you. Because what is not written and not stated, everyone will interpret in their own way.

I'm not forcing anyone to play with me))) my conditions are simple.
You seem to be following the forum closely. Watch the final of the "Favorite's Last" tournament, and you'll immediately understand what I was talking about – it wasn't about a lack of trust in the opponent, but about experience in arranging matches, which is why I didn't really want to play. But since the opponent is showing initiative, I responded with my conditions. Is that clear?
Удача любит подготовленных!!!





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I may have gotten a bit too bold, but couldn't we just watch the streams from Gomunguls and FTS? It would be free and without any drama.
"There's no need to execute me,sir Davos . I'll be dead before dawn."
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I might be getting a bit too bold, but couldn't we just watch streams from Gomunguls and FTS? It would be free and without any drama ))

Well, I think many people would like that. But it doesn't always work out that way on our forum )))
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

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If anything, I'm in favor of "simplifying."

Because I understand that playing 6 games in a month and a half is unrealistic (unless you're Helllight), and players are also involved in other tournaments.

But if you do decide to go with the full format, I suggest playing 2 or even 1 game instead of 3 in the problematic brackets.
I don't consider my bracket to be problematic; TT is a rare jerk, so I consider it my duty to beat him, but the opponent's team's problems with a lack of players are their personal issues.
We will play all 18 games, and may the strongest win.
P.S. Please schedule the ODD for my 3 games with the opponent right away.
I refuse to communicate with TT and Alfein; all coordination should be done through the forum.
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Heh. Just like in the semi-finals, the most problematic player from the opposing team, placed in the 5th slot, is eager to become a coordinator? And from the very beginning, he's writing without knowing the tournament rules. We've seen it before. It's scary. :rolleyes:

Okay. Let's not get ahead of ourselves, let's wait until you discuss it, weigh everything, and see what Lizard says.
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Heh. Just like in the semi-finals, the most problematic player from the opposing team, placed in the 5th seed, is eager to become a coordinator? And from the very beginning, he's writing without knowing the tournament rules. We've seen it before. Scary, we're afraid. :rolleyes:

Okay. Let's not get ahead of ourselves, let's wait until you discuss it, weigh everything, and see what Lizard says.
The problematic one in this tournament is YOU; you've annoyed everyone with your "ego," just play as you play, Kostya will write to Yura himself and post everything on the forum; your "brilliant" comments are not needed.
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Suggest canceling the tournament rules to remove our best seed (third) and then accuse us of "cheating." Well done. You'll go far. :smile02:
If I were cheating, I would suggest the moderators analyze your comment about that rude TT player, and this logical construct as well. But there's a more effective way. Don't communicate.
All my "cheating" consists of is that I don't keep silent about situations where one player ditches another due to pre-arranged game times, but instead offer solutions and preventative measures. Which, of course, doesn't appeal to those who like to stir up trouble. Good luck in the ODD, "problem-free player."
(However, I still hope that not in this tournament, but we'll have a tough, competitive final).
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Suggest canceling the tournament regulations to remove our best team (third).

Why are you writing this phrase for the 100th time?
Don't you understand that the third team with Mike won't play in any of the considered scenarios?
So, the whole fuss boils down to the fact that either we refuse to play in the third team at all (which is definitely a plus for all parties, because one player doesn't have to play 6 games), or we change this team to 1, 2, 4, and it's not quite clear what the benefit is...
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And why should I explain to you what the benefit is? Aren't we rivals in the Final?
It's like when teams enter the Champions League Final, they stand on the field, and one coach approaches the other and asks, "Hey, buddy, what's this guy doing on the field? What's the benefit?" We thought he wouldn't even be on the field.
And of course, the other coach hugs him, smiles, and suddenly, damn it, he tells everything. :D
You've just voiced a similar logic.

Instead, why don't you explain how you came up with the idea to suggest that we remove our best team, without any compensation for us, as stipulated by the tournament rules.
"What's the benefit?"
Especially since, up until that point, we had taken full responsibility for all our difficulties and hadn't suggested revising the rules. Maybe you'll find an answer to your own question.
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And why should I explain to you what the benefit is?

Actually, the question was more rhetorical, because the answer is clear to most people anyway...
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Yes. We simply don't want our best team to be eliminated without a fair chance. We want these three games to be played. Just as you want the three games in the 5th and 6th brackets to be played, where you have strong teams (without getting into the issue of discipline).
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Yes. We just don't want our best map to be removed without any reason.

Have you considered that we were trying to make things easier for everyone, without any malicious intent, hidden meaning, or trickery?
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Didn't you ever think that we were trying to make life easier for everyone, without any malicious intent, hidden meaning, or trickery?
That's exactly what I like.
However, you made a small mistake. (In your own favor. Not out of malice. It just happened that way. And you didn't make life easier for everyone; TT_HNK remained the last one).
I corrected this mistake – and with the proposal for 12 games, I brought your idea to perfection. I also like the idea of making life easier for everyone, as I wrote.
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