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Although I'm not a fan of balance changes, after seeing the results... In short, you get a bit disappointed with vampires and start appreciating the green creatures. They are just as good as vampires, even in the regular version.

Fireball, who are you trying to outrun in offline mode?

Self

In what quantities? 5 vs 5 - yes, but 50 vs 50, vampires are much stronger. Plus, don't forget that the movement range with creatures is 1.5 times greater. Less running means less fighting with pleasant neutrals, therefore
less leveling up with necromancy.

You can't run away from yourself.

As for the turn timer, I don't really care about it in offline games. I'll still have time to do everything.

No, Drakkosha understood me correctly. I didn't mean the spell, but the skill. Sometimes it's very useful. The main thing is to summon the right creatures. To do this, you need to upgrade it to the third level. Then neutral creatures will start appearing. And the Druid chain and the Ring of the Elements will enhance it. This is powerful, especially in online games.

Yes, I agree that special cases like offline or online Tournaments need to be specified. But I do this constantly. Therefore, I repeat that in a simple offline game, against the AI (not for speed), the creatures will be no worse than vampires. Here, it's simply a matter of changing the usual tactics and partially abandoning the Necromancy upgrade. For example, upgrade only two levels, and then switch to upgrading other skills. Or switch immediately to, say, Martial Arts or Tactics, or another magic (for example, Nature). Agree, this is not uninteresting and not cliché. And therefore, it offers at least some variety, which I always welcome in strategy and tactics.

No, summoning (the skill) is a good thing. You just need to learn how to use it... not even learn, but get used to it, understand it. For example, Charm in Order is much worse, IMHO. Nature has an additional chance to increase its army; why would you refuse? It's obvious that you need to develop it to the maximum. But at least the increase is continuous. With Charm, you might grab something here, grab something there, but there's usually no room in the army for "weirdos." Their presence can even lower morale. But Nature summons its own. And replenishment is needed. Especially if you're playing against Death and Might.

Nature calls rarely, and even then, only low-level monsters appear. Haven, on the other hand, can replenish its ranks with titans and dragons if you're lucky, and even a weakly developed Charm skill is very helpful in the early game.
Although comparing these two characteristics is not entirely accurate, Charm is more comparable to Necromancy or Diplomacy. Summoning is a separate ability, and in my opinion, it is only effective with artifacts (50% + 50%), such as the amulet with the beetle and the staff.

Charm, unfortunately, is still not very useful. Even if you're lucky enough to get Titans and Dragons, which is unlikely. It also requires leveling up, just like Summoning. So, what's the point? You still have to level up either one or the other... Again, I repeat about the morale problem, which can be spoiled by the dark factions (Chaos, Death, and Strength, I think). So, Charm can even be harmful, sometimes. Or rather, it's just useless (compared to Summoning). The only plus is that the enemy ranks are thinned out a bit.

Regarding summoning: first, at the beginning, summoning is generally useless, as the summoned units simply clutter the slots and reduce the already small number of summoned units (if there are many slots, they will summon all units of that level in turn). As a result, in one week, you can summon about 7 fairies and wolves, maybe a little more, but usually less, while with Charm, you can gather that many squads in one day...
But tigers are still better:D Speed and strength are more important than weak ranged attacks:D

No, summoning (as a skill) is a good thing. You just need to learn how to use it... or rather, get used to it, and appreciate it. For example, Charm for Order is much worse, in my opinion. Nature has an additional chance to increase its army, why refuse it? It's clear that you need to develop it to its full potential. But at least the growth is continuous. And with Charm, you get something here, something there, but there is usually no room in the army for "weirdos." Their presence can even lower morale. But Nature summons its own. And replenishment is needed. Especially if you are playing against Death and Might.

First, it's not necessary to take "enchanted" units into the army; even before Equilibris, they appeared nearby if they weren't taken into the army itself.

Secondly, the example with titans and dragons is an extreme case; Charm is much more effective at the beginning, when you already have your own unit standing on one, or even two, mines. And if you have halflings... then it's a real fairy tale.

Regarding Summoning: first, it's useless at the beginning; summoners simply clutter up the slots and reduce the already small number of summoned units (if there are many slots, they will summon all units of that level in turn). As a result, in one week, you can summon about 7 fairies and wolves, maybe a little more, but usually less, while with Charm, you can gather so many squads in one day...

Summoning won't be useful either at the beginning or at the end of development; it's only useful in the intermediate stage; you can use it to replenish squads of tigers or elves.

Sorry for the silence. I was in the hospital for a week:( :( :(

Charm is very useful for heroes, I know, I've played. Regarding summoning, you might be right, but it's rarely used... even if you don't need a particular unit, why split your troops just for it?! And if you need a whole squad, not just a few units?! Elves or tigers will also be summoned rarely without artifacts, but elementals, I don't need them at all, praying mantises or the Hive are much more effective, but that's a matter of taste. If you like having elementals in your army, then yes, summoning is indispensable and will be very helpful in increasing their numbers. But in my opinion, we should end this discussion because it's pointless.

ZYbr, why are you acting like a little child? If you need an entire squad, just combine them before the battle, and that's it. And it's also better to add the summoned creatures; otherwise, if there aren't many of them, they might die. And that's perfectly normal!

You definitely change artifacts. Some are good on the map, while others are better in battle. Or, for example, you have a special battle coming up, and you have something that fits the situation. The same goes for summoners.

I disagree that people summon too little. People only summon few elementals (one every two days). A level 2 summon provides two level 1 units (a fairy, a wolf, or a leprechaun). A level 3 summon provides one tiger, elf, or satyr every two days. A level 4 summon provides one of them, but every day. And a level 5 summon provides an elemental. That's not little; what else are you going to do while wandering around the map? You can also find artifacts later...

P.S. I want to try all this out now, it's a shame I don't have a video, but I'll try to do it during work hours:D. I need to try to get used to Nature:)