Posts from Player rating for tournaments across all installments of Heroes.

I’ll say that you continue to confuse people. It’s one thing to outdo a bunch of individual players. It’s harder to outdo a cooperative team that developed a walkthrough collectively. One head is good, but two are worse when both are clueless :) Whether I outdo them or not is another matter. The player should receive rewards commensurate with their performance.

Exactly! And if you also bypass the "brain trust," you'll get a bonus! And that's fair – it adds to the interest in the game and the outcome. Just think about it and approach it objectively. Imagine that there is no "your" or "my" calculation mechanism, if you can imagine that, of course. But there are two independent systems. Try to compare them not from the point of view of "I'll prove it to everyone" (you've already proven it), but from the point of view of which is closer to reality... In total – considering all the pros and cons. The oscillator has its drawbacks, and all your posts are only about them. I wonder, why have you NOT mentioned its advantages ONCE in your posts? Coincidence? Or BIAS?

The discussion revolves around a single tournament. A cooperative team will be inserted between you and the leader. And your rating for this tournament will be artificially lowered, as you will be collectively pushed down 3-4 positions.

Because its drawbacks outweigh its advantages, in my opinion.

Exactly! And if you also bypass the "brain trust," you'll get a bonus! And that's fair – it adds to the competitive spirit of the game.

Half the scheme! Don't mislead! If you bypass this cooperative, you'll get the same bonus... So everything is fine... But the issue of the cooperative forming can be attributed to the clan ranking, and don't complain about the calculation method, because it is correct.

The discussion revolves around a single tournament. Where a cooperative team will squeeze in between you and the leader. And your rating for this tournament will be artificially lowered because you will be collectively pushed down 3-4 positions.

Half of the scheme! Don't mislead! If you bypass this cooperative, you'll get the same bonus... So everything is fine... But the question of the cooperative's emergence can be attributed to the clan ranking, and don't complain about the calculation method, because it is correct.

Let's say I complete a cooperative challenge, but the player following me can't. How is he worse than me? Isn't the cooperative mode already pushing him down 3-4 places in the ranking?

What does the marketplace have to do with it, Iron? I hope I don't need to remind you of what you wrote earlier – that "how will I be able to compete with the leaders?" I'm not arguing about cooperative play, that it would be unfair, etc., but what's stopping you? – create your own :)

And also – I am not a supporter of their ideas or yours; I am a supporter of the common good, the good of improving the rating calculation system – many people

I was personally offended by Iron's ego – because he is going to argue only with the leaders; don't say "hop!", I think I don't need to remind you about "trampled armor..."

That's not a certainty, and even without a clan rating, there can be discussions and arranged matches. I've been around for a while and have visited various portals. Should I name some names? Just back off.

That's why we're having this conversation, because cooperative play is inherently bad.

And it's not about how it affects the rating calculation – it just happens to be the case that your approach doesn't account for this scenario. It doesn't account for any scenario, because it's crude. Let me explain specifically – "crude" doesn't mean you're a lumberjack or that it's poorly made (mathematics can't be bad – it either exists or it doesn't), but rather that it doesn't take into account many of the nuances of tournament competition.

And the only way to find a way to neutralize the idea of cooperative play is within the Clans rating itself – I think everyone will understand this. Because the benefit here isn't for an oscillator, but for the principle of "fair play," which is more important.

So, for those who see many tactical ideas in the tournament, it's not interesting because it simplifies everything too much. And for those who might be interested in such a simple rating, the rating itself doesn't matter. A few people decided to try to create a different calculation, and they are working on it. And if, according to this calculation, you lose your first place, then that's how it will be... There's nothing you can do about it – everyone is on equal footing... So just stand aside if you don't want to help – you're just getting in the way, to be honest...

p.s. You can also highlight the font in red so that people notice who is defending it so fiercely... :) You're just running out of arguments, so you're starting to act like a bully... And there are fewer emoticons – usually you use them every other word...

Iron, don't be angry. Why are you so upset? Everything seems reasonable so far, everyone understands you and isn't judging you... It happens to everyone.

Iron, it seems to me that you are too afraid of these "co-op" things, right?

Alliance is a powerful thing, but for a person who is so confident in their abilities, it's a trivial matter, no exaggeration... You keep pushing your ideas about each individual opponent, supposedly about the rating and everything else... So what if the clan rating is affected, maybe they'll beat you together, but individually? What are you so angry about? You're a balanced person, right? :D

Your method is the basis for calculation, one of the cornerstones of the building, but it's only the foundation. You're just telling everyone to go into their own basement and shouting that everyone else is just wasting time... I'm interested in building something worthwhile, that's why we're having this conversation.

Have you considered that even if the Clans ranking is eliminated, the Clans themselves will remain? And this could still motivate some to compete in the name of their Clan in a tournament. What will your next step be? Eliminating Clans?

Don't jump to conclusions. The same cooperative, if you overtake it, will give you EXACTLY THE SAME number of points upwards! It has a goal to strive for the result, right? This is the essence of the oscillator - it is flexible and reacts not only to the result in days, but also to the number of opponents you have overtaken. Why are you considering only half of the scheme when you need to consider the whole thing? Obviously, because the second part doesn't give you any advantages? What will you say next?