Forum — Tournament Committee

=Lizard=

8 years ago

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sir Davos Seaworth

SoD is the original version from the developer, and HoTA is a fan-made creation (not a fake, but a creation! Just so no one says I'm insulting the name of HoTA ;-))). Otherwise, we'll end up agreeing that everyone should play WoG... And what else... "You need to be able to play all versions."

What a joke. So, for you, the fact that there's a license and official rights to the game is important, as I understand it. And the fact that HoTA is incomparably better made than SoD is just a minor detail? Well, I shouldn't be surprised. Many people stubbornly drive around in dilapidated old BMWs simply because it's a BMW.

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sir Davos Seaworth

8 years ago

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=Lizard=

What a joke, my God. So, as I understand it, the fact that there is a license and official rights to the game is what matters to you. And the fact that HotA is made incomparably better than SoD is nothing? Then again, why am I surprised. Many people stubbornly drive beat-up old BMWs simply because they are BMWs.
Lol, what license, everyone has been playing pirated versions for a long time. And the company that released Heroes passed away into the other world long ago. I was specifically talking about the gameplay, which is absolutely different in HotA. From the balance to the eye-searing graphics. I won't definitively claim that it is just straight up bad (I believe so, but that's only my opinion (or not only mine ;-)), tailored for cheap popularity among the masses), but I'm not calling for anyone to agree with it. I simply don't want to mix HotA and Heroes 3.

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Wicc

8 years ago

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sir Davos Seaworth

I just don't want to mix HotA and 3 Heroes.

Well then don't mix them, who's stopping you?

Tournaments for SoD haven't gone anywhere, few people have switched to only-HotA, most active HotA players also participate in SoD tournaments.

Let me remind you that the HotA team's policy regarding HeroesWorld is to avoid stirring up holy wars and unnecessary competition, not to try to shrink an already small community (~100 active players is a very small audience).

The main source of new players for the HotA community, as I see it, lies outside HeroesWorld; the HotA server itself is cultivating that audience.

So don't cause panic over trifles — SoD still has many years of life left; you'll end your gaming career before it does.

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sir Davos Seaworth

8 years ago

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Wicc

Well, don't mix things up, who's stopping anyone?

Tournaments for SoD haven't disappeared; not many have switched to online HotA; most active HotA players also participate in SoD tournaments.
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So, there's no need to panic over trivial things – SoD will have many more years of life; you'll end your gaming career sooner.

That's comforting. Initially, the discussion was about guiding a newbie through HotA. It wasn't specified that it would be separate from SoD, especially since the SoD summer newbie event was canceled. If it's as you say, then I'm not against it at all; let everyone play what they enjoy.

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Wicc

8 years ago

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sir Davos Seaworth

Originally, the discussion was about holding a Novice tournament in HotA. It was not specified that this was separate from SoD, and this despite the fact that the SoD summer Novice tournament was canceled.

The question of tournaments is solely a matter of having an organizer. If a SoD Novice tournament is needed, you take it on and run it. Or persuade someone else to run it. There is no ban on holding any tournaments on HeroesWorld, self-organization ownz.

The only thing here that is not so much a ban as a strong recommendation is not to hold mixed SoD+HotA tournaments. Because if HotA ever gets to the point of having its own site with profile badges for tournament achievements, then it would be desirable to transfer the results of HeroesWorld tournaments there, and mixed tournaments are unlikely to make it into that list.

Grando

8 years ago

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Nothing prevents holding a tournament with two winners. One for SoD, one for HotA. Right now, I see the parallel structure as a tournament with three winners. Two parallel brackets – one for SoD and one for HotA – are two separate tournaments. They have two separate winners. From those who played in both brackets, the top 4 (top 2 from each bracket) compete at the end for the absolute winner in a mix, playing both SoD and HotA. There may be nuances – it's not a problem to figure them out. And there will be no need for any arguments, no need for anyone to prove anything about what is better or worse. Everyone plays what they want. Those who like both and have plenty of time can play both. And you can easily post on the HotA website the winner of the HotA bracket (specifically the HotA bracket, not the final mix).

Wicc

8 years ago

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From the old forum:

- Is it possible to place a Grail in the Conflux?

- Placing a Grail in the Conflux is prohibited.

- But is the following situation allowed? We dig up a Grail. We give it to the Conflux computer. The computer places the Grail. We kill it and get the Conflux with the Grail.

- The Grail cannot be transferred to other heroes; when you lose a battle, it doesn't drop as an artifact but disappears.

- So, you can force the computer to dig up a Grail and place it in the Conflux. Or you can use the useful button "leave artifact". For example, take a Grail and leave it in front of the enemy's Castle.

- Guys, let's not come up with ways to trick the system and still place the Grail in this unfortunate Castle. Just don't place it, and that's it. Don't use the bonuses that result from this.

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Dirty_Player

8 years ago

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Al Feyn

Right now, I see the parallel tournament as having three winners.

How about we make it 10 winners? Or even 15? Why not?
The "Novice" tournament is meant to be an introductory one, so new players can familiarize themselves with the rules and the tournament structure, etc. But here, they have two brackets, different templates, rules, and versions.

Experience has shown that two tournaments a year is a lot. Therefore, having two different tournaments a year (one on Soda, and one on HotA) seems like the optimal solution without unnecessary complications.

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Grando

8 years ago

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Dirty_Player

How about we have 10 winners? Why not? Maybe 15?

1. Why?
If you can answer question 1, then
2. How?

I answered the question "why" in my message, in the last three lines.
How do you suggest introducing a newbie to HotA if they come to play as a newbie in HotA (for example, Sir Davos), and they are told, "sorry, it's not your day, newbies can only play SoD today,"
because that's what the "fathers" decided, who have been here for 10 years, don't argue.
It's a fail, bro.

serovoy

8 years ago

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Hota haters, the fact that your favorite Necropolis with Conflux has been nerfed, and Galtran with Mullich has been banned, doesn't make Hota a different game, calm down. /summon moderators

RiMpel2

8 years ago

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Actually, it does.

PROger

8 years ago

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And in what part of the game, if you don’t mind me asking, did they “castrate” the Conflux? Did they allow starting with Luna and Monera? Did they allow upgrades? Or did they simply reduce its overpowered nature by increasing the cost of building and purchasing troops...?

KobRa_RR

8 years ago

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Yes, 1 bird for 15 gold is really great, and the starting Moon, of course, also adds to the balance.

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PROger

8 years ago

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KobRa_RR

Yes, one bird for 15k is really cool) and the starting moon certainly adds balance as well

On Jebus Cross, you could also slap an urn on the first, and you'd have 2 birds for 20k :D

=Lizard=

8 years ago

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In my opinion, the strength of the castles in HotA is balanced even better than in SoD. There's nothing to say about the other heroes. The only overpowered one is Jeremy, and it seems like there will be fixes for him.

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