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You are completely wrong about the media/political pressure from Vicc. These were conclusions of the type – I judge by myself. Here you were dealing with a completely (at least at the moment) apolitical person; the only thing that interested me was to figure out what you think and about, by considering the situation from different angles and highlighting the key points.

If you were writing posts in the Tribune or in a private message, I might have believed in such motivation. But the demonstrative declaration of your theses in the tournament topic (and even after a warning) is too much like the political technologies of Navalny.

Therefore, I believe that you signed up for the tournament only to, after the 1st or 2nd round, regardless of the result, express your opinion and demonstratively withdraw in the hope of initiating another wave of discussion. Just in case, I immediately warn you – everything will go to the Tribune, even if it is a game report.

thanks to the fact that Helllight already had some credit of trust

It's not about credit of trust, but about the fact that Hell got into the blind spot of my reasoning, expressed a thought that I myself had not considered. This does not happen often (because I know almost all the arguments for and against different timers), so I decided not to resist, but to try what he suggested.

Road cycling races last 5+ hours, the most famous ones have been held for more than 100 years, and they gather a TV audience comparable to the final of the World Cup. At the same time, no one thinks of forcing the unforceable into a media standard; everyone understands that this is just a type of sport. And Heroes is just such a game.

This is the example I am guided by, because I understand that 3-hour games as a standard are unattainable.

It's just that now, for Heroes, even 5 hours is a very optimistic duration. If it becomes realistic for most games, that will be very good.

Wicc, you still don't understand that (possibly) you are going against the very essence of the sport (especially with this blitz-jebus thing). No matter who and how they try to shorten the timer, and no matter who and how they try to find a media balance, no one is trying to create special conditions for this, in which it would be impossible to show the best that an athlete is capable of. And if they do try, they think about it a little later and change their decision. Because the essence of the sport is to do the best you can.
The timer can be shortened, and during this discussion, your ideas have become clearer. I personally consider this discussion to be positive; I even saw the point in what you are doing. Moreover, I now believe that there are formats of broadcasts in which your ideas of today would be perfectly correct. But this is far from all the possible broadcasts, and it is not even all the broadcasts that create long-term popularity for the game. And I am trying to argue from all the perspectives I know that when it comes to shortening the timer, you cannot go below a certain level, below which most (skilled) players simply will not be able to do the best they are capable of.
But I repeat, for me, my own opinion on this issue is not decisive. I try to focus on what those who play better (not faster, but better) than me write. And the better a person plays, the more weight their opinion has. Therefore, regarding this particular tournament, I will end the discussion for now.

Therefore, I think that you signed up for the tournament only to, after the 1st or 2nd round, regardless of the result, complain and demonstratively withdraw in the hope of initiating another wave of discussion.

Sorry. This is just nonsense and paranoia. :rolleyes: So, I need to respond.
I signed up to do the best I can. Nothing more. Ideally, I want to win.
If it turns out as you wrote, then it will be nothing more than a clash of my skill at that moment and this particular timer. But it certainly won't be the original intention.
What hope is there to initiate a wave of discussion because I withdrew? That's just stupid. Well, I withdrew, so go to hell. Who are you so interesting to? :D
In general, there is no need to come up with such absurd motivations for a person's actions when everything can be explained by the fact that he simply wants to do what is best (you just need to understand how exactly he sees what is best). Occam's razor.
h3dm1 is currently the best template. And I want to play on it under the best conditions I know. And if a tournament is held under the worst conditions, then all I want is to first understand - am I messing up, or is it the organizer? And in what exactly.
A small problem, Wicc, is that IT'S NOT YOUR JOB TO PLAY. Therefore, you perceive the discussion in isolation from this simple circumstance - we have to play with this

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(there was the word "soulful") timer. And I want not just to play, but to feel the meaning in what is happening, that is, to do the best I am capable of. And it is this circumstance that explains my (and if only my) motive for participating in this discussion. And my motive for signing up for the tournament is also - mirrors are the best, and I just want to play the best game there is.

Thanks for the advice regarding the tournament, captain. But this decision was already made without you. And it was even mentioned on the forum.
And I don't agree at all about the demagoguery. The discussion had a goal, and it was achieved. If it remained unclear to you, that only concerns you.
In fact, we managed to achieve even more than we wanted at the beginning.
Not only did we clarify the arguments of both sides, but we also managed to adjust the regulations (thanks to the fact that Helllight already had some credit).

So, are you going to make the tournament with a normal timer or not? :D

So, will you make a tournament with a decent timer or not? :D

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Now this is much more constructive. :smile01:

We organized our own tournament with a long timer and "girls." It's voluntary; those who don't want to participate don't have to. Why all the demagoguery? :smile02:

I agree. Or even without a timer. Something like "The Best Slowpoke - 2017." And it would be even better with a prize pool. I would gladly participate :)

Well, by the way, playing with a mirror without a timer is perfectly acceptable. Not in a tournament format, of course, but for a bet, "according to the Hamburg rules."

The other templates are unlikely to work.

I remember that my best game on fixed maps was played without a timer; we made 2 moves per hour. First, you calculate everything in the editor, and then you execute it.

I agree. Or even without a timer altogether. Something like "the best slowpoke - 2017". And it would be even better with a prize pool. I would gladly participate :)

Artyom would appreciate it))) I won't specify which Artyom))

I remember, my best game on the fixed maps was also without a timer, where we made 2 moves per hour. First, you calculate everything in the editor, then you execute it.

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Artyom would appreciate this))) I won't specify which Artyom))

I'm afraid that in this case, the game would likely be endless, because the turn wouldn't pass :D :smile01:

Or, after 3-4 hours, a message suddenly appears: rest 111.

Poor Stinger, he was so upset:D

Where is the tournament with the girls? I'm signing up!

Where's the tournament with the girls?! I'm signing up!

Nah, bro, you only get into these awesome tournaments with a personal invitation. :smile25:

Does the online lobby work correctly in multiplayer?

It turns out that Speedrun is also possible in "Heroes": completing the "Long Live the Queen!" campaign in 5 minutes and 19 seconds. :)