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I agree that we shouldn't wait for the moment when the organizer chooses a convenient time to play a tournament game, thereby postponing it until the last moment, and then making these deadlines even worse with their guesses.
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Roger-ua
In this case, the decision should have been made by the tournament judge or judges, as Sanin is an interested party. Dirty is one of the tournament judges, and it's possible that the phrase "the judge decided to continue" should be interpreted as "I, Dirty, as a tournament judge, made the decision." If that's not the case, it sounds strange, and then it should be specified which of the judges made the decision, perhaps it was a decision by a triumvirate of tournament judges.

The decision was made by Bishop and Dirty.
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Derbent
I have the impression that this particular tactic was indeed the trump card in my opponent's hands. The fact is that I often have very unstable internet, and on average, in one out of three games, problems inevitably arise, and my opponents in the games can confirm this, as I don't really have close friends on Heroes of Might and Magic. In the previous game, things weren't smooth either; at the scheduled time, I suddenly experienced glitches for about half an hour, and I was close to a technical loss, although I had a significant advantage. And Dark was stalling the game, both that time and this time, counting on problems, as I now think. (I have proof, by the way.)
And now I have connection problems again; it's the perfect time. Let him first tell what happened that day, on Sunday, and then let's make some assumptions about the green hero when the internet was down. Not only are they accusing me of cheating, but also of being stupid.
Yes, I don't understand programming, connections, networks, routers, and so on, but if I were a liar, I would have enough brains to turn off the Wi-Fi, saying that the children were playing around. (This is how our Western Heroes of Might and Magic players like to make things up.)
P.S. And saves before a battle are not as reliable as my GM1 save system after a crash, because you can lose in a game, crash, and continue the game before taking the city.
Essentially, you had crashes in every game, sometimes in the middle of your turn. I was willing to compromise and replay from your save, and your internet problems started after the 3rd week (probably because the provider doesn't want to transmit such a large amount of information :D). On the Sunday you're talking about, we couldn't start playing again because of your internet problems, and I didn't say a word about the potential loss you were facing because you showed up at the scheduled time. Regarding the "babysitting," you're completely wrong. The game is prolonged only because you categorically refused to play for less than 5 hours. You weren't happy with a 3-hour game. It's spring now, and I can't play for a minimum of 5 hours every day. I got tired of your attitude and turned to this forum. If the community thinks that everything is normal and that's how it should be, I'm ready to finish this game today at 6:00 PM. (P.S. And saves before a battle are not as reliable as my GM1 save system after a crash, because you can lose in a game, crash, and continue the game before taking the city. Question: where is your save after the crash?).
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Unfortunately, I don't have much to add, as I've already commented on the situation quite extensively. And who even saves after such crashes? I can't foresee the future and predict this dispute, where, by the way, that save file actually provided answers to your latest doubts. But they will be resolved anyway after you play and see for yourself.
I agree that I didn't mention Techloss at the time, because I already told you that if the problems with my internet weren't fixed, I would have to use Techloss, so you wouldn't have to worry. But within the hour that I had, we were able to resume the game.
But we need to forget about the previous games. If they bother you, submit a new appeal.
Regarding the three-hour game, you answered that question yourself. Yes, it's spring now, and it's inconvenient for me to play in short bursts because it means I have to give up a lot of other things, as I also wrote to you in ICQ. I planned a game for this evening, sat down, and played for 5-7 hours. More than that is also bad because I start to get tipsy. And you have excuses that you drank a couple of liters of beer. I find it really funny, sorry
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Is loading a previously saved game considered a violation of the rules, and do any actions taken after loading the save (completing remaining moves, using scouting spells, etc.) constitute grounds for a technical loss? Are such situations regulated by the rules?
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If the opponent still had time on their timer, why shouldn't the turn pass? But if there was no timer, then the turn should definitely be passed immediately.
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Pridu
If the opponent still had time on their timer, then why not? But if there was no timer, then they should immediately pass their turn.
No, because the turn was passed, as the save occurred.
No, because one of the sides gained an advantage in the form of, for example, studying the map by viewing the terrain for 9 minutes.
And no, because I don't allow myself such tricks, so I would like to see the official, firm position of the AC, and if possible, I will use it too.
In fact, the turn that has already taken place is changed in this situation (in my opinion).
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bubuch
No, because the turn was passed, and the save was made.
No, because one of the sides gained an advantage, such as exploring the map by viewing the terrain for 9 minutes.
And no, because I don't allow myself such tricks, so I would like to see the official, definitive position of the AK (Administration Committee), and if possible, I will use it too.
In fact, the turn that has already taken place is changed in this situation (in my opinion).
Well, you see how much additional information immediately appears. I almost always save at the end of my turn, without passing it. That's why I was looking at it from my perspective.
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If the turn has already passed and the save has been made, then save it yourself and start from your save file; what is the problem?
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Осень-Зима 2013-14.
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Vatya
Since the turn has been passed and the save has been made, just save the game yourself and start from your save. What's the problem?
Vatya, with all due respect, my question is for the AC: Loading a delayed game with a daily save – can this be considered a violation of the rules? Are any actions (completing the remaining moves, using scouting spells, building structures in castles, etc.) by the player who loaded the save permissible? Are such actions grounds for a technical loss? Are these situations regulated by the rules? Or is this fair play? Taking this opportunity, I'll reiterate: Dear Commission, please clarify this, as I have personally observed similar situations repeatedly, and it's not even a big deal. It gives an unfair advantage, often without a timer, taking advantage of the 9 minutes provided solely for reminiscing. Maybe I'm asking in the wrong place? Please suggest a thread where it makes sense to ask. Do the "daddies" have an opinion? Or is this really nonsense? Like, everyone does it that way..
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I've raised your issue in the AK section; we'll look into it and announce the decision once it's made.
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Весна 2012.
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bubuch
Does anyone have an opinion on this, or is it really nonsense? Like, is this how everyone does it?

I've never done this, and I think it's a violation of the rules, because you already completed your turn. I've never noticed anyone doing this, because I haven't been paying attention. But if I did, I definitely wouldn't continue playing with that person.
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The majority of the AK (Arbitration Committee) has decided that actions (completing moves, using previews, building, etc.) taken by the player who uploaded the save file constitute a violation of fair play rules and will be penalized with technical support intervention. This addition will be implemented in the rules section shortly.
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Весна 2012.
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evil_romantic
Most of the AKs have decided that actions (completing moves, using previews, building, etc.) by the player who uploaded the save are a violation of fair play rules and will be penalized by the tech support team. This addition will be made to the rules section soon.
Technically, if you complete your turn and simply save the game without passing the turn, then when you load the save, the timer will not be increased by +10:00 (the so-called "memory time"), but will remain at the value at which you saved, and then you can use previews, etc., without being detected.
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There are many exploits, but we are all for "Fair Play" :)
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