Is it possible to defeat 1000 Archangels with just one Imp? — Polls

ewgeniy

7/4/2007 9:31 PM UTC

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I think this is ridiculous:
1 - Who has ever encountered 1000 Archons on a map? If so, how often?
2 - 1 Demon with a hero who has experience, intelligence + wisdom + earth + fire + magic + artillery.
3 - He has 99 combat skills and at least 50 knowledge.
4 - Earth and Fire spheres.
5 - If Archons attack, then the hero with Archons shouldn't be a weakling either.
6 - If it's about tactics, why a Demon and not a Peasant then?
I think that's enough to stop fantasizing about Demons...

PS It would be better if they asked if anyone has completed the map

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В. Уэйтс©

Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

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Ley

7/5/2007 11:51 AM UTC

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ewgeniy;100208

6 - if it's about tactics, then why not a demon instead of a peasant?

Because a demon, even with all its desire, won't have the opportunity to make the first move, and you'll simply perish.

ewgeniy;100208

PS It would be better if someone said whether they have played the map podarok2000 and, if so, how to defeat the Necromancer - is there a QUICK way?

This is one of the most difficult maps I've ever played - I completed it :)
True, it took me almost 20 months to complete it. :(
I dealt with the Necromancer using the "invisibility" spell.
P.S. I played without looking at the editor. It will be much easier if you look at it in the editor ;)
P.S.2 On a similar question, ta katorya told me that, you'll laugh, but they completed this map in 3 months in their internal clan tournament!!!

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."

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Ta Kotoraya...

7/5/2007 2:00 PM UTC

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Ley;100325

P.S.2 On a similar question, ta kоtorаya answered me – you’ll laugh, but they completed this map in their internal clan tournament in 3 months!!!

Well, it can be done even faster – it’s just that after the tournament, no one tried to do it… maybe someone from the forum will do it ;)

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Yes – and of course, we used the editor – there are many interesting things hidden on the map! ;) The main thing is to look CAREFULLY! :)

Если тебе не везёт в жизни, - играй в какую-нибудь другую игру:rolleyes:
Лидер клана "Из многих единое"

Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...

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ewgeniy

7/5/2007 2:33 PM UTC

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Ley;100325

And the imp is better because the peasant, even if he wants to, won't have the opportunity to make the first move, and you'll just die.
This is one of the most difficult maps I've ever played – I managed to complete it :)
!

I don't understand why? Is the imp really that much better than everything else? If you have tactics or ballistics, what difference does it make whether it's an imp or a peasant?

And about the map... Please, can you give me a link or send it to my email – I would be very grateful. A good friend formatted my hard drive :) and now I can't figure out where to find it again.
ewgeniy1985@yandex.ru

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Ta Kotoraya...;100357

[/U]Yes – and of course, we used an editor – there are many interesting things hidden on the map! ;) The main thing is to look carefully! :)

I don't think that's it anymore.... I completed it without any editors... and I didn't succeed. I reached the end on some unknown month and was shocked... in general, the situation: I have about 200 archers – he has only one legion
I took all the castles and hid in a monastery – he constantly takes back two castles, but I don't let him. And so, I don't know how long I have to play... And there are still computers there... So, then my hard drive was formatted, and I never played that map again...

Клан"Homo Homini":smile19: Полезные ссылки:smile01:

В. Уэйтс©

Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

временно ушел с форума, переодически заглядываю. кому нужен пишите в скайп ewgeniy1985. в аське 384385000 очень редко.

Inquisitor

7/5/2007 3:22 PM UTC

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Crazy people. I know you can kill x zombies with a ballista and one fairy.

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Ley

7/5/2007 3:25 PM UTC

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ewgeniy;100363

I don't understand why? Is the Imp really better than everyone else? If you have tactics or ballistics, what difference does it make whether it's an Imp or a Peasant?

No, the Imp is definitely not better than everyone else. :)
You probably don't even understand what you're writing: what do tactics or ballistics have to do with it? - No matter how you position this 1 IMP, the Archangel will still go first and kill it. The point is that the Imp has a speed of 5, and if you add all the speed artifacts to that, it's already -9, and if you attack the Archangel with "Armor of the Damned" (which will naturally trigger the slow effect), then the one who attacks will go first, but that won't work with a Peasant. Do you understand that now?

ewgeniy;100363

And about the map... Please, give me a link or send it to my email - I would be very grateful. A good friend formatted my drive :) and now I don't know where to find it again.
ewgeniy1985@yandex.ru

No problem! But not until tomorrow, okay?
(don't even ask why?)

ewgeniy;100363

I don't think this is it anymore... I played without any editors... and I didn't finish it. I got to the Necromancer's castle in some unknown month and was shocked... in short, the situation: I have about 200 Archangels - he has only one legion
I took all the castles and hid in the monastery - he constantly takes back two castles, but I don't let him. And I don't know how long I have to play like this... And there are still computers... So then my drive was formatted, and I didn't play this map anymore...

It took a very LONG time to get to the Necromancer! Even "camouflage" wouldn't have helped you. Well, you won't run into that again the second time...;)
Good luck! Best regards.

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Inquisitor;100377

You guys are crazy. I know that you can kill x zombies with a ballista and one fairy.

You're a monster! But without a program, you'll be killing them for 4 weeks :D

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."

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ewgeniy

7/5/2007 4:36 PM UTC

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Ley;100378

No, a demon is definitely not the strongest unit. :)
You probably don't even understand what you're writing: what do tactics or ballistics have to do with it? No matter how you position that one demon, the archangel will still go first and kill it. The point is that the demon has a speed of 5, and if you add all the speed artifacts, it becomes -9. And if you attack the archangel with "Cursed Armor" (which will naturally trigger the slow effect), then the attacker will go first, but that won't work with a peasant. Do you understand now?

I understand everything perfectly! If we take the demon as an example, the slow effect and other things will trigger first, right? Tactics are needed so that you don't have to worry about speed and can place the peasant where (in a 2x2 area :D - sorry for the pun) he won't be reached. I wonder, if the demon has a speed of 9, and the slowed archangel has a speed of 2, or something like that? I thought that even using Berserk, you would only have to stop four of them, and the rest....
I wanted to say right away that if there is any aggression in my words, it was unintentional, and I apologize...
But only for that!:):):):) - as D'Artagnan used to say.... :D

Клан"Homo Homini":smile19: Полезные ссылки:smile01:

В. Уэйтс©

Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

временно ушел с форума, переодически заглядываю. кому нужен пишите в скайп ewgeniy1985. в аське 384385000 очень редко.

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MagicMan

7/5/2007 5:57 PM UTC

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This is unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Да прибудет с тобой сила магии и волшебства!
С уважением Первый в Круге!

Ley

7/6/2007 11:09 AM UTC

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Inquisitor;100382

you could kill at least 1000 Archons

Actually, it's less :) - about 20 minutes. Someone posted a similar example of killing 1000 Imps in this thread; download it and see for yourself. Everyone keeps claiming something, but why don't you just check it out? Is it that hard?
Sincerely.

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ewgeniy;100410

I understand everything perfectly! If we take an Imp as an example, will the slow effect and other things work first? And tactics are needed so that you don't have to deal with speed and instead place a peasant where (in a 2x2 area :D - sorry for the pun) he can't be reached. Is the Imp's speed 9, and the slowed Archon's speed 2 or something?

Well, you're quite something! You say you understand everything, but you keep defending your point of view (which, on the one hand, is good ;), but only when it's justified!). But what does tactics have to do with it?! UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES CAN YOU SAVE THE PEASANT!!! You can't hide a peasant from an Archon, even if you have expert tactics - THEY WILL GET HIM ANYWAY!!!
Yes, the Imp's speed is 9, but the slowed Archon's speed is also 9! Still, if you attack, you go first...

ewgeniy;100410

I thought that even using Berserk, you would only have to stop about four of them, and the rest...

And what does that have to do with anything here? Have you seen the map!? 1000 Archons in one pile! But even if they were in seven piles, it would be MUCH easier (and faster)! Your turn-based rule: cast a force field, then Berserk, then force field, etc. - THAT'S IT!

ewgeniy;100410

Yes, I wanted to say right away that if there is any aggression in my words, I didn't mean it and I apologize...
But only for that!:):):):) - as D'Artagnan used to say.... :D

It's okay, don't worry about it :)

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."

SandroXXL

7/6/2007 11:11 AM UTC

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Before claiming that it's impossible, download the map and take a look. Some say it's cheating, but is it really necessary for a single demon to defeat 1000 archers?

Просто еще один

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ewgeniy

7/6/2007 5:14 PM UTC

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Ley;100577

What does tactics have to do with it?! Under no circumstances can you save a peasant! You can't hide a single peasant from an Archangel, even if you have an expert tactician – THEY WILL GET HIM ANYWAY!
Yes, the Imp has a speed of 9, but the slowed Archangel also has a speed of 9! Regardless, if you attack, you go first...

And what does this have to do with anything here? Did you see the map? 1000 Archangels in one pile! But even if they were in seven piles, it would be MUCH easier (and faster)! You have a rule for the first turn: cast a power field, then Berserk, then field, etc. – THAT'S IT!

Okay! I didn't understand anything! So, you can put an Imp under a power field, but not a peasant? I haven't seen the map and I'm not going to look at it. I don't know if there's a map where 1000 Archangels are in one cell. (It's easier to divide them – they will heal each other.)
Why does the Imp go first? Slowing only works when you start your turn – and as far as I know, Archangels move forward before Imps. Why is the Imp better then?

And in general, post 91 is the best, IMHO!!

Клан"Homo Homini":smile19: Полезные ссылки:smile01:

В. Уэйтс©

Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

временно ушел с форума, переодически заглядываю. кому нужен пишите в скайп ewgeniy1985. в аське 384385000 очень редко.

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ewgeniy

7/6/2007 5:42 PM UTC

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Okay, I had to take a look... So, who was it that said a peasant would be killed? Try doing what you advise others to do – load the game and see for yourself :)
to fobo$:
Sorry to the author – I made some changes, but I'm not claiming authorship :)
PS And where does the priority come from? Is it because of the Spirit of Despair and the Ring?

PS I don't know how everyone else conducted the battle, but I blinded the Arch and summoned a bunch of 7 Imps, placed them inside, and started throwing Implosions at it... It's much faster than using a Berserker, definitely!

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Клан"Homo Homini":smile19: Полезные ссылки:smile01:

В. Уэйтс©

Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

временно ушел с форума, переодически заглядываю. кому нужен пишите в скайп ewgeniy1985. в аське 384385000 очень редко.

SandroXXL

7/6/2007 7:20 PM UTC

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to ewgeniy
Okay, I don't understand what you mean by "attacks"? :) I said "download and check" in post 95, but there was no mention of a peasant. Or are you addressing Ley? By the way, 2000 archangels can also be defeated; I've tried it.

Просто еще один

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ewgeniy

7/6/2007 10:56 PM UTC

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Okay, I don't understand what the issue is? :) "Download and check it out" is what I said in post 95, but there was no mention of a peasant. Or are you addressing Ley? By the way, 2000 archangels can also be defeated, I tried it.

Don't worry about it, Sandro! We're just chatting here with Ley....
He just said that it wouldn't work with a peasant (he meant it that way), and I just proved the opposite....

Клан"Homo Homini":smile19: Полезные ссылки:smile01:

В. Уэйтс©

Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

временно ушел с форума, переодически заглядываю. кому нужен пишите в скайп ewgeniy1985. в аське 384385000 очень редко.

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Ley

7/15/2007 12:37 PM UTC

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ewgeniy;100681

PS Where does the priority come from? Is it because of the Spirit of Despair and the Ring?

I don't understand this either...

ewgeniy;100681

PS I don't know how everyone else conducted the battle, but I blinded the Arch and summoned a bunch of 7 Imps, placed them inside the Demon, and started throwing Implosions at it.... Much faster than with a Berserker, definitely!

Why did you surround the Demon with Imps? You should have pushed them forward instead - it would be faster, and then hit them with Lightning! :D
P.S. And I was talking about the peasant -

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."