“Best map for Heroes of Might and Magic III” (2007). — Contests

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VDV_forever

2/4/2007 10:47 AM UTC

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CONTEST: "Best HeroesWorld map of 2007
for Heroes of Might and Magic 3"

КОНКУРС Лучшая карта для героев меча и магии 3 за 2007г на HeroesWorld

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This thread will be used to evaluate all maps created by esteemed mapmakers wishing to take part in the annual contest for the best map!

To participate in the contest, you must familiarize yourself with the rules below:

1. The map must be at least 72x72 (preferably with a Dungeon).
2. The map can be made in any editor (except WOG)!!!
3. The map must be created by you personally.
4. The map must contain heroes with the nicknames of forum members.
5. Send the completed map to the email address VDV_forever@BK.RU, or post it in this thread

The participant must remember:

1. If a player claims a map that is not their own, they will be automatically excluded from the contest and punished.
2. Maps made in a map generator are not accepted!!!

Contest dates:

Maps will be accepted until November 20, 2007; the winner will be determined on November 30, 2007!
After receiving your map, you will see in the application table that:

the map has been received and is under review - indicated by a bold Nickname.
the map has been accepted - indicated by an italicized bold Nickname.

Prizes:

1. There will be only one winner.
2. A reward in the form of a Virtual prize in the profile and under the avatar.
3. A certificate of honor from www.heroesworld.ru (Sent by mail).

Map Evaluation.

Maps will be evaluated based on the following categories:

1. Map size, presence of a Dungeon. 72X72 - 10 points, 108x108 - 15 points, 144x144 - 20 points, Dungeon - 10 points.
2. Map density (i.e., absence of "empty space"). Max points - 20.
3. Number and, most importantly, quality of mini-quests. Max points - 10.
4. Beauty of the landscape and the world in general. Max points - 10.
5. Presence of balance (the map should be designed for high-level players). Max points - 10.
6. Thoughtfulness and strength of neutral monsters. Max points - 10.
7. Thoughtfulness and strength of the computer opponent. Max points - 10.

Judges:

VDV_forever, Kolb@zzer, Sage

1. After testing the map, each judge evaluates it on each of the 7 points and assigns points from a minimum of 1 point to the maximum (specified within each point).
2. Each judge is required to give an objective evaluation (summary) for every map. In this evaluation, judges must specify all pros and cons of the map and provide a conclusion.
3. The judge has the right:

- If there are errors that make the map impassable, deduct up to 20 points per error;
- If there are errors but the map is passable despite them, deduct up to 5 points per error;
- Deduct points for aspects not included in the above points if this is mentioned in the summary;
- Return the map to the tournament participant to fix errors and shortcomings.

An offline tournament called "Best of the Best - 2" will be held on our website for the "Best Homm3 Map", i.e., the map that takes first place in the contest!

PARTICIPANT LIST
NUMBER	PARTICIPANT NICK	Map	Date Modified	Rating
1	AlexeyPank
2	Алисия
3	Kimmanuel Oblodra
4	<))Dimitrius((>
5	Dmitry_A_S
6	*SandroXXL*		14.09.07 (1)
7	Ley
8	*Александр Г.К.*		26.09.07 (0)
9	*Ganymed*		31.08.07 (0)
10	Entony
11	*Maximula*		31.08.07 (0)
12	*Vanechka*		14.09.07 (1)
13	*Fenix*		31.08.07 (0)
14	*Denminator*		17.10.07 (1)
15	*Joyce*		31.08.07 (0)
16	*lankwe*		17.10.07 (2)
17	*PrutkoFF*		14.09.07 (0)
18	Vasko
19	Windows Vienna
20	*Knight-voland*		23.10.07 (0)
21	*Max714*		6.11.07 (0)
22	*Драко*		20.11.07 (0)
23	*RAPER*		20.11.07 (0)
24	*Freeman*		11.11.07 (0)

For those whose map was made in WOG, it is suggested to convert it to SOD using a special program /attachments/5148/

Thread where you can ask questions about this program:

/topic/at/107043/

Good luck.

Sincerely, VDV_forever

Единый справочник по Героям Меча и Магии

ТУРНИРЫ ПО ГЕРОЯМ 1!:smile13:

In reply to VDV_forever

RAPER

5/15/2007 3:03 PM UTC

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VDV, and why am I not on the list yet? =)) ;);););

играю на уровне AI !!:smile32: ;)

Ley

5/17/2007 9:06 AM UTC

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I have another question: why can maps be created in any editor except Wog's? Isn't it important that if a person is truly skilled in Heroes3, this would only increase the number of participants in the contest. Right now, there are only 9 participants, which means there will be 9 maps – that's a rather small selection. So, why only in those editors? What's so special about Wog's?

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."

SandroXXL

5/17/2007 10:31 AM UTC

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Perhaps because WoG isn't an official editor, ERM scripts allow you to create a completely different game. And not everyone may have WoG. Moreover, if you create maps for WoG, you can easily create them for HoMM3 as well. And also – this is a section for HoMM3; maps for Heroes 1, 2, 4, and 5 are not accepted here. And there is a separate topic for WoG.

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Ganymed

5/20/2007 8:48 AM UTC

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I would also like to participate in the contest. I have sent the map.

Настоящие герои - не те, пред кем мы преклоняемся, а те, кого мы оплевываем...[/COLOR]
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"So much has gone
and little is new"

David Bowie

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Outlove

6/10/2007 1:29 AM UTC

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Hello everyone! Great contest, I'm planning to participate, but after reading the rules, I was very disappointed - the Wog editor can't be used... And it's the only one that works for me... Maybe you can suggest where I can download an editor for The Shadow of Death (although others would work too). :(
Oh, never mind, I found it, a nice person posted it on the forum... I'm going to start creating now!

K0Lb@zzeR

6/21/2007 1:12 AM UTC

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Dear VDV_forever, I have already written to you several times in private messages regarding the judging and evaluation of maps, but unfortunately, I have not received a response. I see that 2 people have already submitted their maps. Please send me these maps for evaluation to the following email address: k0lbazzer@bk.ru I will evaluate them and send you the results, along with some comments on the evaluation system, if necessary.

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Riddik

6/28/2007 11:15 AM UTC

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I also want to participate! But I have one question: I've been making maps for 2 years now, but I still don't know what "playability" means and how to make maps playable. :smile32:

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Alex_R

6/28/2007 11:23 AM UTC

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Riddik;99087

I also want to participate! But I have one question: I've been making maps for 2 years, but I still don't know what "playability" means and how to make maps playable?:smile32:

It seems that for all these 2 years, you've been creating maps exclusively for yourself or a small circle of friends!!!;)
In my understanding, "PLAYABILITY" is not only an interesting plot and a beautiful landscape, but also the real attractiveness of the map for diverse and widespread use... for tournaments:smile51: /duels:smile30:/for fun:smile02:
P.S. In short, it should be "to the taste" of everyone, from "fanatics" to "gourmets."

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Riddik

6/28/2007 11:33 AM UTC

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Indeed, I always created maps for myself and my fellow Heroes players. :)
If I understand correctly, there isn't a technical concept of "Playability."
There is a concept in terms of quality. If there is a link about "Playability" and what constitutes tournament or quest maps, please share it.
Thank you in advance! ;)

AmberSoler

6/28/2007 11:49 AM UTC

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Riddik;99091

If there is a link about playability and what tournament or quest maps are, please share it.

Well, it's unlikely to be possible... The concept of playability is quite vague. And here, it's unlikely that you can learn how to create maps that are guaranteed to be playable. It only comes with experience.

As a rule, the playability of a map is largely influenced by the balance of power, which means that the player will be in a state of sufficient tension throughout the game, i.e., the opponent must constantly remind themselves. Because if by the end of the first third of the game, everything is already decided and clear, then further interest disappears... But, on the other hand, you can overdo it and turn the map into a constant race between your cities with the goal of keeping them from being captured, when the opponent is coming from everywhere... :) Such a map is easier to abandon than to finish... Both of these options are not very playable, i.e., not interesting. Finding the golden mean is the task.

To understand what tournament maps are, play at least a dozen tournaments, then you will understand better how they differ from non-tournament maps... Namely, by being more playable... :)

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Riddik

6/28/2007 1:30 PM UTC

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Then let's try to find that middle ground:smile01:

SandroXXL

6/28/2007 7:19 PM UTC

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Maybe it’s simpler: if the map is fun to play, then it’s playable; if you don’t enjoy playing your own map, then it’s not playable.

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K0Lb@zzeR

6/29/2007 12:57 AM UTC

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SandroXXL;99154

Maybe it's simpler: if the map is enjoyable to play, then it's playable; if you don't enjoy playing your own map, then it's not playable.

I agree, that's pretty much how it is.

P.S. But in my understanding, "playability" is like in chess – not every game is the same. In terms of Heroes, "playability" means non-linearity. That is, the map should offer several different scenarios for completing it, which would differ from other scenarios (in subsequent playthroughs on that map). The more such scenarios there are on the map, the more "playable" the map is.

:smile13: [ТУРНИР] "Гонка за Лидером" :smile13:
:smile28: [M] "Я и моя тень" - "I am and my shadow" :smile28:
:smile16: ~~"Быстрая смерть" - "Fast Death"~~ :smile16:

Vanechka

7/4/2007 7:05 PM UTC

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for VDV_forever
Listen, I created a good map, but here's the problem: I have a pirated version of Heroes 3.5 copied onto a flash drive through several intermediaries, without a licensed version of Heroes 3 from Ubisoft and all the other goodies... In short, the map is in the Wake of Gods version, but I, for example, don't see any fundamental difference in the gameplay between the regular Heroes 3 and the 3.5 version that I have.
And secondly, I've only been on your site for a week, why would I start creating Kilgore nicknames for forum members I don't know?
I want to participate in the contest with this map. Will you accept it?
If so, I'll send it. Maybe you can also help me convert it to the third version, if that's such

SandroXXL

7/5/2007 2:47 PM UTC

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Vanechka, you can find the nicknames of forum users on the first page of this thread – choose whichever you like. As for the modification, you could try deleting all the objects from *In the Wake of Gods*, or replacing them with objects from *The Shadow of Death*.

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