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Hi everyone! I need your help!!! We started a game a few days ago. Elf (Wing) & Orc (Krag). The map is THREE RIVERS (it's really cool, I recommend it to everyone, big respect to the developers). On this map, you can only play in the late game. The heroes are already level 25-27, but that's not the limit. We'll meet at level 30+. There's a mentor and lots of great items on the map! How should I best develop Wing? Should I take Creature Ability (CA)? Maybe there's something better??? As for the Orc, Krag is overpowered. At the beginning, I can easily lose 6 or more dragons! (He already deals about 3 damage, but he can crit and deal twice as much, + he pushes back on the scale, + he gets reinforcements). As for CA for the Orc, I don't know, my opponent likes machines... As for the items, the Orc definitely has a staff with -20% initiative and a ring with +20% initiative, most likely a Lion set! I'm in a worse position with items: Dragon Eye Ring, Cloak (-luck and spirit), Unicorn Bow, and some other minor items, but I think there's still more to come. There are three of our castles on the map + many additional dwellings of all kinds. I also forgot to mention that both of us have a Pendant of Skill! I would also like you to advise which creatures to upgrade!!! I think like this: 1. Nymphs 2. Dancers of Death 3. Archers with Double Shot (after all, I have a bow) 4. Druids with Channel Energy 5. Light Unicorns 6. Green Ents 7. Prismatic Dragons I want to develop CA + attack with ranged attacks!!! Oh yes, and which creatures should I put in the Blessed list? I think we'll finish this confrontation tomorrow!!! I need advice urgently!!!! Before the end of today.
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Do you have any cold spells? And what armies do you have, approximately?
 

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I don't remember anything about cold resistance, but there are three castles, so I think at least one of them has it! The armies will be very large; I don't know exactly what they'll be yet. I think there will be around 30 dragons! Unless an Orc decides to attack earlier! I don't think a mix of Might and Chaos with cold resistance will work; it's better to go with Haven, because it's better to apply buffs to large armies. I'm not sure; this is my first late-game game against an Orc.
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You can also upgrade your Commander (and probably should). Look for artifacts that boost initiative, attack, and speed. In the cursed slots, put Executioners and Cyclops; check the tavern for the rest. Everything looks good in terms of upgrades (except for the Furies – who are they? If you meant Dryads, then it's fine). You don't need to worry about machines; they won't make a difference at this point.
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Definitely nymphs!!! I'm worried about machines; what if he has upgraded arrows and a ring of kinship with machines? :( I think the speed will be fine, because in the Conflux there are native lands, and I'm almost 100% sure I can lure him onto the grass! So, I don't know whose turn to use for the machines! It seems like archers, but I don't want to waste such a powerful attack (luck +2, shots without penalty) on a ballista!?
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If the Creature Ability (CA) belongs to the Orc, the Elf has no chance. Period.
Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день



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If the Computer AI controls the Orc, the Elf has no chance. Period.
DOES EVERYONE BELIEVE THIS?
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I don't think Cold combined with Chaos will work well; Light is better because it allows you to apply stronger buffs to your powerful armies. I'm not sure; this is my first late-game match against an Orc.
If you have a spell that prevents chilling, then it will work. Especially in combination with a ballista, which can be upgraded since you have a Mentor. Let me explain: you fire a barrage of arrows at four cursed enemies, and not only do you reduce their rage, but the damage also increases by almost twice. However, this will be expensive if you take a ballista, and then you'll also need Empathy, as practice shows.
Plus, you can destroy his ballista with Cold.
 

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It's strange that no one has addressed the issue of sworn enemies – in my opinion, this is 50% of the success. Centaur + Shaman + Cyclops + Chieftain
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Here, the elf is almost done for, especially with a well-built Orc. ~ -40% initiative from artifacts (if there are no items with +initiative), and if it's combined with Command Aura + Education + Defense, it's guaranteed. Even with just a Ring of Cold + Azure Dagger + Rain of Arrows + Cursed + Enchanted Arrow + Deadly Cold + Amulet of Cold + Lord of Cold... it's still unlikely. He needs Offensive Unit and Darkness... at that stage, he could even learn all the Darkness spells. Since there's a mentor, he'll level up in Command Aura. He'll eliminate the ranged units, then he can switch Cold to Meteor Shower, and the amulet to green boots... Although, the freezing effect won't be noticeable, even though the ring doesn't provide much of it. You could also try Lord of Fire + Fireball. You can significantly reduce the Orc's defense. But -40% initiative is a lot! And if there's a Chaos Shield...

Honestly, the chances are small if the Orc levels up correctly and has a lot of hit points.
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Guys, let's finish the game tomorrow! The Orc found the armor of a forgotten hero! I gave up on magic! Only light because of the Conflux! We'll finish tomorrow, and I'll upload the save! I have an advantage in the army; I think there's a chance + the Conflux!!!!! Enemies: Cyclops, Shamans, Warriors, and Centaurs. Didn't find any others!!!
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The Elf also needs artifacts for initiative. He really needs them. Does the Orc have any tactics? Can you tell me? Or do you not know? And what level will he end up with? You won't get to level 33, will you? Or level 32 with a Sorceress?
 

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The elf also needs artifacts for initiative. He really needs them.
Does the orc have any tactics? Or don't you know?
And what level will it be in the end? You won't get to level 33, will you? Or level 32 with a sorceress?
Especially the Ring, luckily, our elf has high initiative. If the opponent has a good artifact against the elf - a green staff, for example - it will reduce the elf's initiative, especially the Winged One's. Although, if the Winged One reaches level 30, the bonus will at least somewhat offset the orc's artifacts. If he levels up in Chaos, then having a "stopper" artifact on the orc - a failure - would be a bad thing. And he should apply Darkness with Out of Unit. Luckily, there's nothing to debuff with. Even anti-darkness won't help here. He will definitely have more units.
Моды для HeroesV:
NHF 0.90 : NHF - группа в VK

Карты для HeroesV:
Путешествие , Условие крови , Рука судьбы.Часть 1: В поход , Рука судьбы.Часть 2: Отчаянье , Рука судьбы.Часть 3: Восхождение , Стойкость
Абсолютная власть , Иду на Вы! , Корона Ургаша , На задворках
Мир надо уничтожить... Чтобы создать свой...
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If nothing changes, both will be level 30! + the Sorceress has skills! I have a lot of dragon items that individually increase the initiative of different creatures! The dummy Orc isn't leveling up! He went to the Stronghold! There won't be any tactics, level 31 is the max! Thanks for the advice!
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Hello everyone! I finished the game!!! I defeated the Stronghold, despite what the mean pros said, claiming there was no chance if an Orc took the Conflux! Ha-Ha!!! I'm attaching a save file, if anyone is interested, take a look! The Orc was level 31 with the Conflux! He had the following items: a gnome helmet that protects against blindness, armor of the forgotten hero, a ring that gives +20% initiative, a staff that gives -20% initiative, boots that give +1 to all characteristics, and an amulet of mastery! The Winged Demon was level 30. Items: ring of the dragon's eye, unicorn bow, quiver for it, dragon boots, dragon chainmail, lion hat, amulet of mastery, dragon shield. I also maxed out the Conflux skill! So, LORDE, put your points in other places. Thanks to everyone for the advice and ideas. [offtopic]
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