Mafia 31. Twilight Dances. — Mafia

Gil4

15 years ago

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Gur

Sorry, Gil, which advisor's note were you analyzing?

Best regards,
Gur

The very first one, back when there was an uprising against the execution of Slonik. Now it's pointless, even though new notes have appeared, because the results will still be the same.

Best regards,
Gil

Happy Life

15 years ago

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I'm going to go look for the mistress, because there's this dark-haired handsome guy standing next to her, and when we execute her, someone will have to take care of him ^_____^.

This is an archer with short hair.

Гур

15 years ago

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Who told you that this note is from an advisor? Peaceful roles are not identified because not every player knows the true statuses... Sincerely, Gur

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Gil4

15 years ago

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Arandor

You need to know a person well to deduce who wrote such notes based on their analysis. As if everyone else makes stupid moves. For everyone else, the situation with her is 50/50 because they can only trust the status (who verified it) and the protection. They have to believe everything else, and that's not very safe.

And I do know her well. Moreover, if I didn't understand that things aren't so simple for everyone else, I would be asking Lisa to simply believe me right now - but am I doing that? No. But now you understand that if I hadn't convinced some players to execute Rimpel, it would have been much worse, right? The necessary peaceful players wouldn't have been identified, the Mafia's murder would have succeeded because their goal wouldn't have been so predictable, and the score would have been 6/8 with Halfmoon - and that's a loss.
Regarding stupid moves, there can be many reasons. For example, a novice is in a leadership position, TaKo is inactive (I'm not saying that's what happened, so don't be offended - it's just a guess), etc.

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Gur

Who told you that this note is from an advisor?

Peaceful roles cannot be determined because not every player knows the true statuses...

Sincerely,
Gur

Common sense told me.
Peaceful roles can be easily determined without knowing even a single status - I state this with full responsibility. There are doubts about some points, but this does not change the fact that the overall picture is clear. Moreover, let's say you realize that Morny is a guaranteed peaceful player? You should. And you don't necessarily need to know his role for that, right?

Sincerely,
Gil

Нэйко

15 years ago

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This is an archer with short hair.

An archer with a muscular build who looks completely like a man? If that's the case, we'll kill her along with the rest.

Гур

15 years ago

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Gil, I seem to have completely lost my common sense; please explain to me why the note you're talking about is from an advisor.

Here's my list of possible mafia members: Lizard, Louis, Kitz, Slonysh, Arandor, Vish, Amko, and The One Who. Also, considering the fact that the mafia might have intentionally misled the town, you, Gil, and Hostor can also be considered members of the mafia...

Sincerely,
Gur

Нэйко

15 years ago

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Nah, if Gil and Hoss were in cahoots, the town would have already lost, and the Mafia's moves would be more strategic.

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Gil4

15 years ago

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Gur

Gil, I seem to be completely lacking common sense, please explain to me why the note you're talking about is from an Advisor?

Here's my list of possible Mafia members: Lizard, Louis, Kitz, Slonysh, Arandor, Vish, Amko, The One Who. Also, considering the fact that the Mafia could intentionally mislead the town, you, Gil, and Hostor can also be considered Mafia members...

Sincerely,
Gur

Because it describes the result of checking the Advisor's observation, and there were no fake options. It's pointless for the Advisor to remain silent.
Excellent, thank you. :)

Sincerely,
Gil

Гур

15 years ago

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Unjustified. The advisor might remain silent.
How did you figure out TaKo?

Sincerely,
Gur

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Gil4

15 years ago

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Gur

Unjustified. The Advisor may remain silent.
How did you figure out TaKo?

Sincerely,
Gur

Justified. I won't waste my time proving to you, esteemed elf, that a note from the Advisor is pointless.
I wrote down all the peaceful roles for each player in my notebook, and then five players remained who hold mafia roles - TaKo is among them.

Sincerely,
Gil

Гур

15 years ago

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Gil, please explain your reasoning regarding the peaceful roles. Sincerely, Gur

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What is the basis for the assumption that the note is from an advisor? Why don't you think the advisor could have remained silent, while the Mafia lied? Sincerely, Gur

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Gil4

15 years ago

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Gur

Gil, please explain your reasoning regarding the peaceful roles.

Sincerely,
Gur

I can't, because I automatically excluded my own role from the possible roles for some of the players. Therefore, by outlining my reasoning, I would automatically reveal my role and receive a modkill. Furthermore, I am not going to provide you with information about the location of the peaceful figures on the board, as that would be like playing a game of give-and-take. I will say this: I didn't do anything impossible; it's just a combination of logic and deduction.

Sincerely,
Gil

Нэйко

15 years ago

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What justifies the assumption that the note came from the advisor? Why don't you think the advisor could have remained silent, while the Mafia lied?

Why would the advisor tolerate such behavior from the Mafia and remain silent? Is he a drug addict?

Arandor

15 years ago

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Why would a drug addict put up with such behavior from the mob and remain silent?

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Gil4

15 years ago

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Gur

What is the basis for the claim that the note came from the Advisor? Why don't you think the Advisor could have remained silent, while the Mafia lied?

Sincerely,
Gur

If you are not satisfied with the confidence in the Advisor's integrity, here is another answer:
Because there is no player among the Mafia in its current composition who is capable of writing a fake note with such a style.

Sincerely,
Gil

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