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Madge was an angel... however you want to look at it, but this conclusion is obvious.

Pandora, do you see me anywhere expressing disagreement with Morning? No, so she's an angel.

Oh, they buffed Vegtama :D

Couldn't Medj be a seductress? Besides, I don't remember her ND being in the newspaper.

How do you explain the seductress's ND on the second night then? :confused:

Pandora, do you see my voice against Moning anywhere? No, so it must be an angel.

Writer, Az! And why are you writing that?

I don't understand, what was I saying?
Even if my voice is with the angel, it should still be reflected in the end.

???

And yet, explain to me the pleasant aroma in Hermit's bedroom on the second night??

Ple-Sen, why do you think Morning is an angel and not a seductress?

It's obvious:
1) Morning told Azirial to vote against Morning himself, or he would take measures.
2) Azir refused.
3) Morning ordered him to vote, and Azir's vote appeared against Morning.

It's obvious. I'm not repeating myself, I'm not repeating myself.

It's obvious:
1) Morning told Azir to vote against Morning himself, or he would take action.
2) Azir refused.
3) Morning ordered him to vote, and Azir's vote against Morning appeared.

It's obvious.

Oops, I didn't notice Azir's vote :o Sorry, it's been removed.

Torian’s voice seems strange to me, especially considering how upset he was yesterday about Moning.

Yes, Torii has tried to defeat me several times already.

Under no circumstances should Torii be executed. He is playing for the city.

Added 8 minutes later
And it's true. I have no reason to doubt Torii after Arandor turned out to be the villain. Cancel the execution of Morning, execute Ple-Sen. Azi, will you reconsider? I misinterpreted the notes... Ple-Sen's positive status allows us to suspect him of aiding the murderers, especially when compared to his stats. I wouldn't risk it! I will be of use to the city no matter what, even in the face of imminent death.

Plessi's positive status allows us to suspect him of aiding the killers, especially when considering his night actions.

Ahem, it's actually quite easy to figure out my role because:
1) I wasn't blocked.
2) My night action was every night.
3) Positive status.
4) Repeated hints, and quite obvious ones at that.

Basically, Captain is subtly hinting that I'm Town.

City, just execute Moning already! It’s painful to watch his death throes. Lock defeated him :D

Based on the clues, Gur seems to be the last mana user.
Stalker, I think, is Vegtham (because the story is reminiscent of Lovecraft).
Thory is most likely with him in the gang of soul-eaters.
And it seems the warrior is still alive...?

Execute Morning

There's no need to shorten the day. I have things to discuss with the people. I'll write down my thoughts a little later :)

Added 19 minutes later
So, Arandor was a Mafia member, one of the Soul Reapers. (And now who will tell me that I wasn't right yesterday?)

First, I'll tell you who the killed Mafia members were.

Destroyers:
Werevolka - Werewolf (eyes flashed)
Hermit - Warlock (dissolved into the air)
Drakkoska - Nameless (darkness over the house)

The fact that the Destroyers had only one fighter left, without a kill, partially explains their low activity.

Soul Reapers:
WisTrit - Executioner
Arandor - Stalker (turned out to be much stronger than he seemed at first glance + his block on the 5th night, when the Mafia didn't act)

So, the bad guys left in the game are: an angel, an outcast, a defender (destroyer), an assassin, and a seductress (soul reapers).

Although there is a possibility that Arandor was an Assassin, not a Stalker.

Morning - angel (yesterday he transferred one vote from a player who hadn't voted).

I'll move on to those I suspect a little later.

Added 22 minutes later
Pandora, I apologize for keeping you waiting (it seems you're waiting late at night for me to write). I just need to write a lot... I'm writing it now :)

Yes, I'm here. I'm all ears. Go ahead and write.

So, in my opinion, the peaceful players are: Lizard, Pandora, Azi, Neyra, and of course, me ;).
And probably PleSen is also peaceful.
Everyone else is suspicious.

Now I will move on to specific names.
Thorium is a murderer!
I became convinced of this after reading his post:

Basically, good evening to everyone. Sorry for not being in the thread often, but I don't have much time.
In general, there are 6 people left in the city. In my opinion, Neyra and Azi are 95% city dwellers, as can be seen from the results of the night actions.
I also trust Pandora, Arandor, and Lizard. Mostly because of how they play. The 6th city dweller is me.
I am ready to execute everyone else. I am surprised that you don't see the obvious giveaway from Koteyko, Plesen, Moning, and Gur. They don't care who they hang! And Neyra so naively joins the general lynching. Plus, there's Registr, who quietly sabotaged yesterday and is now making a fuss about early voting.
Execute Moning. Then, according to the list...

Now I want to analyze his post element by element.

1st point

Plus, Registr, who quietly sabotaged the vote yesterday and is now making a fuss about early voting.

I sabotaged the vote because, according to my time (I have a time zone +6 hours from Moscow), the day passed in the evening and at night, and I was busy at that time and really didn't have time to log in. Also, I didn't expect the day to be shortened; it was a complete surprise to me.
Now let's move on to the fuss I raised.
Honestly, I expected you to raise this fuss (you come online earlier than me), and I would just agree ;)
Why did I expect that? I'll explain.
As far as I know, you often play psychological Mafia on FLP (or is it your doppelganger playing there? :D)
For those who don't know, I'll briefly say how the chronicle looks at the end of the night. It looks very dry. It only says who died and that's it. There is no hint of the murderer, his role, or even how the unfortunate person died (from poisoning or murder). And no other night actions are displayed. So, even though I don't have much experience playing Mafia, this is my eighth game in total (one of them was on FLP with Thorium), I have a clear idea of how they look for the Mafia in such a case. And they look for them using a comprehensive analysis: the results of the vote, the results of the night (even if they are dry results), looking for various connections (Mafia usually call each other peaceful or don't call each other at all, and try to quietly defend each other. Also, the Mafia prefer not to communicate with each other during the day), and finally, the behavior of a specific player is taken into account.
So, for this, it is extremely important that everyone votes (NNV is also a vote), or if the vote is blatantly sabotaged, it is also taken into account (for example, as Gur and Azi did yesterday, which greatly helped the angel), activity is shown, but there are no votes... Also, the discussion itself is extremely important (they even have a discussion on day zero, when there is no information at all). But here, Thorium basically said that everyone doesn't need to vote, and they don't need to discuss anything... Are you, excuse me for the question, planning to identify the Mafia using only this? Just don't say that you don't use techniques from psychological Mafia, because Mafia relies on clues.
I would still understand if someone else said that, but I don't understand why the master of psychological Mafia said that.
That's why, when I came and didn't see the "fuss" from your side, I purposefully asked you, and not someone else, to express your opinion about the day being shortened.
But if we assume that you are evil, then everything falls into place in this matter.

2nd point
Thorium, do you remember how you explained in a note why you withdrew your vote from Hermit?
"I think I withdrew my vote from Hermit for no reason. He's Mafia, specifically - a destroyer. If he weren't Mafia, the two groups would have hanged him with the city constantly making stupid decisions."
Logical. By the way...
The next day comes!
The two Mafia groups with the city constantly making stupid decisions hang Happy. Why didn't you apply the same logic here?
By the way... Didn't you write before that only a blind person wouldn't see that Happy and Neyra are city dwellers? I don't remember...

3rd point

I also trust Pandora, Arandor, and Lizard.

To confidently declare Arandor as peaceful after my analysis... For the master of psychological Mafia, this is at least strange... If you were peaceful, you would at least doubt him, so to speak, you would put him in the category of those who need to be watched... But here you confidently stated that he is peaceful.
And if we assume that he is your accomplice, then everything falls into place.

4th point

And Neyra so naively joins the general lynching.

Voting against Arandor did not look like a general lynching. He didn't even have a majority of votes (the angel helped). There is a clear distortion of facts.

5th point

I am ready to execute everyone else.

Strange... This is very strange for a peaceful player... To vote against anyone...
There is always a more suspicious or more dangerous player for the city...

Based on all these points, it turns out that Thorium is among the murderers.

And the 6th point, strangely enough, will be in defense.
Before your post, I thought Gur was the murderer.
Now I am even somewhat confused about who is the murderer of the two of you...
In general, now you definitely need to execute Moning, and I need to think more about the two of you...

Added 10 minutes ago
Most likely, Thorium is still the murderer, and not Gur.

Added 1 minute ago
Regarding the maniac. I definitely can't say anything right now... I need to analyze the clues more.
Today, he probably wanted to kill Neyra. But she was healed by the paladin.
We need to wait and see what status Koteyko will have...

Added 7 minutes ago
Pandora, I apologize again, I just can't write quickly and concisely... I should have prepared this post yesterday :)

Conclusion: we need to block Gur and Toria. It would be good to coordinate our actions so that nothing bad happens. There is still time.

I suggest we execute Morning today. At night, we attack Guru, and we block Toria with the guard.

Added 1 hour 38 minutes ago

A stalker could easily go through the back passage.

Actually, in the chronicles, it was written about going through the back door. And the back passage is something else :smile52:

Added 6 minutes ago

Plessen's positive status allows us to suspect him of aiding and abetting the murderers, especially when considering the evidence. I wouldn't risk it! I will benefit the city no matter what, even in the face of imminent death.

And how is Plessen aiding the murderers? Can you elaborate?
He voted against Arandor.
I hope no one doubts that Arandor was a murderer.