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Should unconfirmed, yet also unverifiable, reports be taken into account?
23 voters
Single choice Closed 2009-03-31
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YES!
43.5% 10 votes
NO!
52.2% 12 votes
WHO CARES!
4.3% 1 vote
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17 years ago
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Dear World of Xeen players! Another season of online battles has ended, but besides the pleasant moments, it has also given us a whole bunch of unconfirmed reports. And as far as I understand, this is, unfortunately, a normal practice here. Frankly, I don't understand such "unconfirmed" players; for me, they are the same as cheaters, at least the most malicious and arrogant ones! And I know for sure that I am not alone in my dissatisfaction. This idea is not my own; it has been brewing for a long time, and it seems that many people have had it at the same time – I will only try to help implement it. That's why we have this poll.
Ибу ибуди - хуйдао муди - Шаг за шагом можно достигнуть цели (китайская мудрость)

Кто к нам с пером придёт, тот от пера и погибнет!:smile51:
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17 years ago
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I agree with you. An unconfirmed report without a valid reason is rude and disrespectful. It might be somewhat understandable if it's a new user on the site (1-20 posts), but it's completely unacceptable if it's a regular player. This needs to be eliminated, just like cheating.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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17 years ago
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Answered "No". If reports are counted without any reaction to them, it will lead to the appearance of false reports. For example, on Heroesportal, this problem is solved by the fact that if a player has outstanding reports (i.e., reports against him that have not been responded to), then his subsequent victories will not be counted in the ranking until he responds to the outstanding reports.
http://dreamcatcher.metroland.ru/
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17 years ago
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Experience from playing on Battle.net has shown that accounting for unconfirmed reports does not always lead to the appearance of cheaters.
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17 years ago
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I voted "FOR". If there is any cheating, it won't last long, as everything will be figured out eventually. And if such cases are discovered, the culprit will not only be banned for using multiple accounts but will also lose all their points earned during the season (this is a suggestion for a punishment measure).
Я ламер и играть не умею, нах!:smile33:
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17 years ago
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Not always, but it can.
Всё не так плохо как Вы думаете. Всё намного хуже!
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17 years ago
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Dear players,
Each game report must be confirmed to prevent cases of rating manipulation or other unfair practices.

If your opponent does not confirm a lost battle, you should reconsider playing against them. Be sure to report on the forum that your opponent did not confirm the game. If there are multiple complaints, they will be banned from playing ranked matches.

We kindly request that you choose opponents in advance who treat the game with due responsibility.
С уважением, Vlad

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17 years ago
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Xaker
Dear players,
Each game report must be confirmed to avoid cases of rating manipulation (or anything else).
I generally agree; I'll explain why now...
Xaker
If your opponent hasn't confirmed a lost battle, you should consider whether to play against them. Be sure to report on the forum that your opponent hasn't confirmed the game. If there are several complaints, they will be banned from playing ranked matches.

Yes, you need to think about whether to play against them or not, but writing on the forum and reporting is a risky business... I once posted a report on the Portal and sent the opponent a link to the report (for convenience) - I received confirmation and forgot about it. Later, I saw that my report was unconfirmed, so I wrote directly, "If you have any questions, ask, or confirm the report" - I received an agreement to confirm the report again, but it turned out to be just words....
After this player confirmed another player's report, I posted on the Portal in the topic and forgot about it... and only now, from Dreamcatcher, did I learn that the player is "not ranked."
What I'm getting at is that in an attempt to help the opponent by providing a link to the report, I made a fool of myself, so I have "0" enjoyment from the game, and you (Xaker) are saying that I should do this with everyone who doesn't confirm? ... For me personally, this is nonsense....
Xaker
We strongly encourage you to choose opponents in advance who treat the game with due responsibility.
No one is immune to newbies, and there is a very large percentage of players with "0" posts and above who may not confirm - and this is actually good (that there are many newbies)!

P.S. My vote is incorrect; if possible, move it to the 2nd option, "no." I really liked the friendly resource system that Dreamcatcher described - "freezing the player's subsequent games."
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17 years ago
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I cannot agree with the statement "if the opponent doesn't confirm, don't play with them." This is almost the same as saying, "if the opponent cheats, rudely violates the rules, etc., then don't play with them." Thank goodness, I haven't had such problems on this forum, but on the Portal, where I've only played 4-5 games, there's already a precedent – and it happened in a tournament. I'm sure that we can't leave the situation with reports as it is on the World platform: we need to change something, one way or another. The option of not counting reports for "debtors" is also not ideal. We can come up with something else. Perhaps we can do something with saves, with logs from communication programs, etc. (by the way, this could, firstly, encourage some "lazy" players to save their games daily and, secondly, give us all the opportunity to regularly see fresh saves from top players!).
Ибу ибуди - хуйдао муди - Шаг за шагом можно достигнуть цели (китайская мудрость)

Кто к нам с пером придёт, тот от пера и погибнет!:smile51:
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17 years ago
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I fully support Dream's idea. IMHO, it's the best solution to the problem.
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17 years ago
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Oelm
I fully support Dream. IMO, it's the best solution to the problem.
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I think it's the optimal solution!
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17 years ago
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Xaker
A humble request to choose opponents in advance who treat the game with due responsibility.

I didn't pay much attention to this phrase at first, but what does it actually mean? In a veiled way, it's almost a call NOT TO PLAY AGAINST NEWCOMERS! But what about the influx of fresh blood to the forum:confused:?
Ибу ибуди - хуйдао муди - Шаг за шагом можно достигнуть цели (китайская мудрость)

Кто к нам с пером придёт, тот от пера и погибнет!:smile51:
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17 years ago
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This phrase can also be adapted for new players. Start by playing with a new player, and if it turns out later that they are a malicious non-confirmer, then don't play with them!
http://dreamcatcher.metroland.ru/
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17 years ago
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KostyaN
I cannot agree with the statement "if the opponent does not confirm, don't play with them."
Not quite. The point was that if the opponent doesn't confirm several times.
And it was about ranked games.

If you enjoy playing with someone, play and have fun =)). That's the main thing =)
KostyaN
in a veiled way, this is almost a call NOT TO PLAY WITH NEWBIES!
No. Don't try to understand me in an exaggerated way.
And the concept of "newbie" is very relative.


Regarding the "debt" system.
It is quite optimal.
I fully support it.
С уважением, Vlad

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17 years ago
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Xaker -1. How great, I'll play a couple of losing games, close my eyes, and everything will be fine. After all, only when I don't confirm a few games will people stop playing with me!

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