Racial ability: "Preparation". — Haven

Boris K

17 years ago

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JVWarlock, the training speed for Humans was reduced even before the release of the second expansion pack – in patches 2.1, and then in 1.5. I don't play online myself, but I've heard that Humans and Necromancers were simply banned from online games before these patches. Now, you need to think strategically when playing as these factions.

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JVWarlock

17 years ago

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Boris K;197047

I don't play online myself, but I heard that people were simply banned from online games for playing as Haven or Necropolis before these patches. Now you have to think strategically when playing as these factions.

Sorry, I'm not very good with "terminology." What do you mean by "banned"?:smile50:

Нэйко

17 years ago

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For example, I build the Paladin building very quickly:smile54:, but I don't train them right away. However, I don't rush to build Angels, firstly because it's not profitable, and secondly, I won't be able to buy them for a long time:smile33:. I also don't take Peasants, except perhaps for upgrading them to something stronger:p.
P.S.: In the last mission of the last campaign of the Hammers of Fate, I only won thanks to them. I upgraded 200 Peasants to 100 Paladins and 100 Monks (this is an off-meta strategy, but I just wanted to share how useful this ability is; you just need money)))

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Boris K

17 years ago

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JVWarlock;197048

Sorry, I'm not very good with "terminology." What do you mean by "banned"?:smile50:

They weren't allowing players who wanted to play as those races to join the game.

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Mutare Drake, I always buy peasants. Even if I'm playing as a different faction and capture a Knight's Castle. They bring in money. At the same time, I try to recruit Elaine from the tavern.

Amko

17 years ago

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And then go fight for Elrath.

This was meant as sarcasm. 20 Paladins is a lot. :)

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Нэйко

17 years ago

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Boris K, come on, they don't pay that much, but as Paladins, Monks, or Archers, they will be quite useful (if there are enough of them, of course;))).

Boris K

17 years ago

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Mutare Drake, when you amass hundreds of peasants, especially with Elaine, you get a rather significant daily income boost. Before patch 1.5, I used to save them up and then convert them all into crossbowmen at once. Now, I either turn monks into knights when the final battle is in an open field (usually against a human player in HotS), or I turn swordsmen into monks (usually against the AI). Also, in versions 3.x, improved peasants also generate income.

Мститель

17 years ago

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Since preparation is limited to only 20 per week, I think it makes sense to focus on training only Paladins from Monks whenever possible. Of course, it requires a lot of money, but you can sell unnecessary artifacts...
At the same time, the number of people hasn't been reduced significantly. After all, training has become much cheaper. And even if you train Paladins, you still won't be able to produce more than twenty per week.

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Нэйко

17 years ago

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Boris K, yes, they are very useful at the beginning, and in general, they are quite profitable, but wouldn't it be better, when you already have a lot of money and a large income even without peasants, to upgrade them to something stronger and more useful, because in battle, what matters is not the income, but powerful creatures.

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Майор Вихрь

17 years ago

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Avenger;197079

Since training is limited to 20 units per week, I think it makes sense to focus on training only paladins from monks, if possible. Of course, it requires a lot of money, but you can sell unnecessary artifacts...

Yeah, you can start right from the second week, so you'll never be able to build a Capitol and are guaranteed to lose. In the very beginning, starting from the second week, you can easily train archers or zealots (archers are preferable, but zealots can be trained while playing as Laslo). 7 units each is quite good for the beginning and costs very little. There's no way to talk about monks, and especially paladins, in a short game and at the start.

Boris K

17 years ago

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Mutare Drake, it rarely happens that I have plenty of money and a high income even without peasants. Perhaps in campaigns. With a limit of 20 training slots, you can turn 20 peasants into 20 archers. I prefer to train stronger units. And judging by the comments of other forum users, I'm not the only one.

I don't even think about training until I build a Capitol. Even in the campaign for Isabel. After all, training halls are not the cheapest building.

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Нэйко

17 years ago

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It rarely happens to me that I have a lot of money and a high income even without peasants. Except maybe in campaigns. With a limit of 20 training slots, you can turn 20 peasants into 20 archers. I prefer to train stronger units. And judging by the comments of other forum users, I'm not the only one.

Oh, I often have a lot of money;))))

I don't even dream of training until I build a Capitol. Even in the campaign for Isabel. After all, training halls are not the cheapest building.

Indeed, the Capitol is the most important building in the castle. Being without it is the same as being without money at all:(.

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KonServator

17 years ago

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Mutare Drake;197365

Ah, I often have money;))))

Of course, it all depends on the level you are playing. Money for training during the first 2-3 weeks may be insufficient when playing on Veteran or Hero. Of course, it's good if there are a couple of gold mines or Dragon Utopia nearby.
Otherwise, you can avoid hiring all troops in the town and only take the most useful ones—then you will have more than enough money for training.

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Нэйко

17 years ago

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Of course, it all depends on the level you are playing. There might not be enough money for training in the first 2-3 weeks when playing on Veteran or Hero. Of course, it's good if there are a couple of gold mines or a Dragon Utopia nearby.

I mostly play on Hero, rarely on Warrior; I don't even do any training during the first 2-3 weeks, but by the second month, or sometimes the third, I already start training.
Alternatively, you can avoid hiring all troops in the town and only take the most useful ones—then there will be more than enough money for training.
I sometimes do exactly that; at the beginning, I take everyone I can to stay afloat, and then later I stop taking some of them (unless, of course, there is a large number of mines or Castles).

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Мститель

17 years ago

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I don't even argue with that! Spending a lot of money on preparation before reaching the Capitol is pointless; everyone understands that! But once you're established, you should maximize the use of retraining, and there's no question of turning 20 peasants into 20 archers (for example, by the fourth week).

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