Grail, is it overpowered? — Tournament History

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ДаУ

9 years ago

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Let's vote; I personally am against it on Large maps; on Medium maps, it might be okay; let's go!

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AstralLein

9 years ago

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The Grail was conceived as a lucky/unlucky (depending on its location) item in the Grand Skill Chamber. However, one thing is clear: on random maps, the AI finds it first in 90% of cases. I tend to believe that the Grail should remain in the game, even if it has better properties for some factions.

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Dirty_Player

9 years ago

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Definitely – make it cheaper! :smile13:

AstralLein

9 years ago

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Another restriction. That's why I don't play in tournaments.

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socola

9 years ago

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AstralLein

The Grail was conceived as a lucky/unlucky find (depending on its location) in the Grand Strategic Campaign. However, one thing is clear: on random maps, the AI discovers it first in 90% of cases.
I tend to believe that the Grail should remain in the game, even if it has better properties for some factions.

Unless the AI is named Redwait).

AstralLein

9 years ago

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I've never found the Grail by digging on max difficulty; I always found it near the Companion... after which I took the Castle and never gave it back...

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FireToSky

8 years ago

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I'm so tired of seeing people constantly complaining in every game: here's a list of the offenders – Reddit, Grizzwald, Hellight. Today, Lizard joined their ranks, and he just had a baby... who's next? Maybe it'll be you?!
Let's just ban this absurdity already: :smile29: :smile29: :smile29:

szopa666: ban JC win game Keepo

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KobRa_RR

8 years ago

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FireToSky

I'm so tired of seeing the same names pop up in every game: here's a list of the scoundrels: Reddit, Grizzwald, Hellight. Today, Lizard joined their ranks, and he just had a baby... who's next? Maybe it'll be you?!
Let's just ban this absurdity: :smile29: :smile29: :smile29:

Vanya, you have no right to complain; you won against all of them, even with the Grail :D :D :D

=Lizard=

8 years ago

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After playing a game with Ivan, which just ended, I strongly disagree with him: 1. If it weren't for the Grail, I wouldn't have had any theoretical chance to do anything. On 3 respawn points, only 1 mini-Zephyr appeared, without any hiding spots, and the 4th respawn point was in a dead zone. So, sometimes (although rarely), the Grail balances the game, rather than being an absurdity. 2. I dug up (and did dig up!) the Grail in a game against a live opponent - for the first time in my life!))) So, don't put me on that hellish Schindler's list.

http://ru.twitch.tv/lizard_wt

FireToSky

8 years ago

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I’m not only talking about you — this trendy movement is flooding the expanses of HeroesWorld, and I see 2 solutions:
1. A complete ban
2. A ban in Tower or Conflux

szopa666: ban JC win game Keepo

=Lizard=

8 years ago

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The second option is not bad. But it would be better to improve it based on the principles of HotA. I used up all the resources and gold to build a GM for the Grail, just like the timer. And in the Fortress, I would suggest that the Grail doesn't reveal the entire map, but instead creates a conditional overview around each player's castle.

http://ru.twitch.tv/lizard_wt

AstralLein

8 years ago

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That’s why I don’t participate in tournaments.

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Russel_lDHl

8 years ago

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I think the Red Orb should be changed first, making it a composite artifact. And the Grail – I vote to keep it only on maps with more than 20 zones.

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Grando

8 years ago

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And here, Russell gets right to the heart of the matter. The most absurd artifact in the game is the red orb. That's where you should start.
And making it a composite item is also a great idea. At least, for example, by adding another artifact for resistance, and from 4 resistance artifacts, you could create a red orb.

https://www.twitch.tv/grando__