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Not really. What's wrong with 6 lm and map generation by a third party? Or is it about the version? I think Vanya will play SoD too.
I think the problem is finding such a third party while avoiding complaints toward that very same third party. In such monetary matters, involving third parties is extremely undesirable. IMHO.
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There's Mizrael.
Wake me up in the middle of the night and ask me who represents high moral standards in the Heroes community, and I'll immediately say - Mizrael.
(Who is the backbone of everything - Dirty :smile26: )
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it's time to introduce the position of paid arbitration referees for ice rinks.
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Not really. What's wrong with 6 lm and map generation by a third party? Or is it about the version? I think Vanya would play SoD too.

The point here isn't to win some amount of money (personally for me), but to get enjoyment from the process, where the game is played for stakes rather than just being a simple fun match. But with this player, you only get a headache.

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I think the problem is finding such a third party while avoiding complaints toward that very third party. In such monetary matters, involving third parties is highly undesirable. IMHO.

A 3rd party is a hint of distrust toward the opponent, but I don't understand this distrust if in the previous series he was always the host himself. Or if the person is a cheater, then what's the point of a 3rd party if he'll just hack everything anyway? Or maybe I'm wrong?
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No. A third party can be used to reject a generated map based on some agreed-upon criteria. This is to avoid playing for money on a map that is clearly flawed. And then – yes, this could be a reason to make claims against the third party, but trust in their skills should be established before the invitation, otherwise it will be too late.
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For example, a third player might add more Hives, and there’s no way to check.
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Gomunguls
Using a third person is a hint of distrust towards the opponent, but I don't understand this distrust, especially since in the previous series, he was always the host. Or, if a person is a cheater, what's the point of using a third person if they can hack everything anyway? Or am I wrong?
I think I'm wrong. Here, the distrust is more towards the random number generator. Generating with a third person is needed for:
- saving time (on restarts and restarts due to encounters)
- avoiding one-sided and buggy generations.
This used to be common practice in club tournaments. Again, there are pros and cons.

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For example, a third person can add more hives, and you can't check it.
It is such questions about the third person that may arise from the losing side.
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But playing against this player will only lead to trouble.
Playing against this player will only result in a loss :smile09:
Тот, кто борется - может проиграть, кто нет - проиграл уже (с)
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For example, the third party could still add more Hives, and there's no way to check.
For such situations, I suggest using not just one, but preferably three people whom both participants trust, who can review the map and give a general opinion, to see if the balance is more or less equal. And in the case of adding Hives, it will be immediately visible.)
Although, with such a number of people, it would be very expensive :D
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Gomunguls
I reject this proposal; I don't think an explanation is necessary as everything is already clear.
Alright, if not, then not. This isn't about trust, but merely superstition.
In that case, I am ready to play like this, without 3rd parties.

With a stream and so on.

The financial question is secondary; I agree that the goal is to play a good game against a strong opponent. I hope for mutual understanding, otherwise other reasons for refusal are unclear.


To clarify, we are playing:
BO5 SoD 6lm10a medium roads. 3 restarts.


We try to play the game in one sitting
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Is Dustik ready to bet on Siberia?
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Alex_nv - draw - Vovan112013 летос 236

alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.
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Are you ready to bet on Siberia?
I'm ready, send me a private message.
Тот, кто борется - может проиграть, кто нет - проиграл уже (с)
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Alright, if that's not possible, then so be it. It's not about trust, but rather about superstition.
In that case, I'm ready to play without involving a third party.

With streaming, etc.

The financial aspect is secondary; I agree that we'd like to play a good game against a strong opponent. I hope we can come to an understanding; otherwise, the other reasons for refusal are unclear.


To clarify, we'll be playing:
BO5, SOD, 6LM10A, medium roads. 3 restarts.


We'll try to play each game in one go.

BO5, SOD, 6LM10A, medium roads. 3 restarts.
This all works for me too. The main question is about mutual understanding – I suggest playing 1 game per week, or more if we agree. To play a full game in one go, I suggest making the weekend days the main days. We'll start after the money is transferred to the guarantor (I'd really like Dirty to be the guarantor, as well as the judge in our series). I won't stream the series; I'll record all the games and upload them after the match is over. If any questions arise, I'm ready to answer them to avoid any unpleasant moments. For those who want to see my game in real-time + commentary = 1000 rubles per person for all games; I'll create a private TeamViewer session. Regarding the money – 10,000 rubles for the series; I won't be able to pay weekly for each game in this case. If everything is okay, I can suggest starting this Saturday.
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//deleted 3 pages of pointless chatter and arguments//

Looks like someone is upset:rolleyes:

Collective effort is voluntary, so if someone doesn't like something, they should leave the topic instead of engaging in pointless chatter.

Regarding the main topic - charging for a stream, in my opinion, is only worthwhile in the format of a "mutual stream with a commentator".

In this case, the fee is split between the players and the commentator - for mutual interest in the quality of the show.

And that amount is a bit too high. I doubt you'll find many willing participants, especially when the quality of the content is questionable. If you want to establish this as a permanent thing, then first focus on making the event watchable, and it's better to set a lower price initially.
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It seems someone is upset: rolleyes:

Participation is voluntary, so if someone doesn't like something, they can leave the topic instead of spamming.

Regarding the topic – charging for a stream, in my opinion, is only worthwhile in the format of a "mutual stream with a commentator."

In this case, the fee is split between the players and the commentator – for mutual interest in the quality of the show.

And that amount is a bit too high. I doubt you'll find many willing participants, especially when the quality of the content is questionable. If you want to make this a regular thing, then first focus on making the event enjoyable to watch, and it's better to set a lower price at the beginning.

Thank you for the advice; there is some truth to it. But I repeat, my goal is not to make money, but to have fun! And yes, even if there are few people, or maybe none at all, it doesn't matter.
In general, a high-quality event with a good commentator(s) is great if there is a prize pool formed not by the players.
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