Posts from Wonderful New World

Map Name: Brave New World (BraveNewWorld_12)
Map Version: 1.2
Game Version: 3.0 (3.1)
Map Type: Multiplayer
Size: ExtraLarge (XL) (216x216)
Dungeon: No
Total Players: 8
Human Players: 8
Author: Ogo
Author Contact: ogo-i-o@yandex.ru, ogo-i@ukr.net
Description: “The Great Upheaval shook the very foundations of existence, breaking apart and dividing continents and territories in a new way. After the Earth stopped, the inhabitants emerged from their shelters and began to revive the former glorious life in this new world.”
The map is a remake of a map from the third Heroes game.
The map uses the Phoenix dwellings mod (by ArchWarlock). It does not overwrite any objects from other maps.
From the author:
“This is my first map of this large size. Moreover, this is my first multiplayer map in which I implemented scripted quests for players and the ability for artificial intelligence to complete them. Also, on this map you can find a Phoenix dwelling and a Cyclops treasure trove. Since the Brave New World map is a remake from the third Heroes game, the landscape and balance on it are not quite typical for the fifth part of the Heroes series. This, as well as the in-game quests, should convey at least a little of the atmosphere of the third game. It is also great that neither I nor any of the testers experienced long AI turns on this map, which is especially valuable for maps of this size.

MANY THANKS: ArchWarlock (for the Phoenix dwellings mod and help), EyeGem (for help with scripts), Sphinx (for the idea of creating a remake of this map), Praetor and Chesnok (for testing the map).

Changes in version 1.2:
- The quests for the 7th and 8th players have been swapped, and the 7th player's territory has been slightly rebalanced.
- Some landscape details have been added.

Changes in version 1.1:
- Fixed a bug that caused the AI player to take too long for their turn...
- Removed the "wand with a spell..." artifact from the list of available artifacts.
- Changed the texts of the Phoenix dwelling.


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I haven't played this map yet, but I definitely will – I really want to see the phoenix's lair and the cyclops' treasure chamber!

Visually, it strongly resembles a map from the third game, and it looks great. Besides, Ogo-i is a well-known mapmaker from the old school.

I played this map a long time ago; it was included in the Epic War Age collection. This map lacks balance between the players. Green has an extra town, while the others don't. Some territories lack certain mines; for example, green has sulfur and mercury mines, while yellow has sulfur and crystal mines. Red and blue have very small territories, while the others have three times more. All player pairs are connected by land, but orange is separate on an island, which gives it a clear advantage because the shipyards are well-protected and won't be taken out early in the game. I personally didn't like this map.

On the other hand, each player has their own territorial advantages. Everyone has certain resources that will eventually run out, and then – it's time for battle!

On the other hand, each player has their own territorial advantages. Everyone has certain resources that will eventually run out, and then – it's time for battle!

Well, maybe that's what the author intended, but, I repeat, I personally didn't like it.

We all have our own tastes and preferences. As they say, there's no accounting for taste.

Why bring this old stuff here? And does OGO in Lviv know that his maps have been posted here? We're waiting for something new, but this has been played and replayed a long time ago...

Not everyone has played this map. Besides, there aren't that many large maps for 8 players. Moreover, the unique feature of this map is that it's a remake from the third installment of the series; in particular, the landscape and balance are designed in a way that's not quite typical for the fifth part. Additionally, the map features a legendary Phoenix dwelling and a Cyclops treasure chamber.

What's the point of dragging old maps from one place to another when it's not just plagiarism, but outright theft? What are the moderators doing?

This map is not available on the forum. And it doesn't matter if it's old or new. Many people are learning about it for the first time. Posting a map with the author's name cannot be considered theft or plagiarism. However, Antik, if posting this map has caused internal conflict within you, you have the right to complain to a moderator. I wouldn't object.

Yes, I'm reading... The copyright is stated, so I don't see any problems. If there was no mention of the authors, or if the authors specifically stated that their maps should not be shared outside of certain platforms, that would be a different matter. For the sake of clarity, it would be nice to contact ogo and double-check with him about permission, but I don't think he would object.

For the sake of aesthetics, it would be nice to contact ogo and double-check with him about permission, but I don't think he'll refuse.

We've already done that, we wrote to him. But he's not working on Heroes right now. Maybe we can get him back into the Heroes community. Anyway, we'll see what happens!

What's the point of moving old maps from one place to another? It's not just plagiarism, it's outright theft. Where are the moderators looking?

Why bring this old stuff here? And does OGO in Lviv know that his maps have been posted here? We're waiting for something new, but this has been played and replayed countless times...

As Ment said, the copyright is indicated, the author is also mentioned, and all of this is done on a non-commercial basis. Moreover, this is not the only case of a map being moved from one part to another (for example, in Heroes 6, this map is also present and was not created by users, but added by the developer, and there are many such examples).
If you are waiting for something new, then that is your "problem," not anyone else's. The author did what he wanted to do, and he is not obliged to meet your "newness" requirements.
Personally, I enjoyed playing this map!!! (I think I'm not the only one).

As Ment said, the copyright is indicated, the author is also mentioned, and all of this is done on a non-commercial basis. Moreover, this is not the only case of a map being transferred from one game to another (for example, in Heroes 6, this map also exists and was created not by users, but added by the developer, and there are many such examples).
If you are expecting something new, then that is your "problem," not anyone else's - the author did what he wanted to do, and he is not obliged to meet your "new" requirements.
Personally, I enjoyed playing this map!!! (I think I'm not the only one).

Well, that's just like Arshavin! Your expectations, your problems. As for the map, it's complete garbage. Play maps created, for example, by markkurom, and you'll feel the difference.