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13 years ago
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Hooray, the city won!
Special thanks to Arandor, Vishmaster, and Neyre for the victory.

Unlike Arandor, I can't seem to control the randomness.
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Cast:
1) Thaler (Mafia 2) - Orton
2) Professor (Mafia 1) - Sancтури\Pobeditel
3) Mogila (Mafia 1) - Zlobny Yashchur
4) Velerad - Wishmaster
5) Dandelion - Neyra
6) Jailer Uz - Rudy
7) Golan Vivardi - Tox
8) Declan Leuwarden (Mafia 1) - Kitz Kitsunka
9) Detective Raymond Marlowe - Wolfstet
10) Yakov from Aldersberg (Mafia 2) - Nephela
11) Shani - Alex
12) Triss Merigold - Sub Zero\Amko
13) Sigismund di Denele (Mafia 2) - Phoenix
14) Zoltan Hivey - Goden Dag
15) Geralt - Arandor
16) Princess Adda (Mafia 2) - Gur
17) Captain Vincent Mace - Toriy
18) Azar Javed (Mafia 1) - Dashenka

Gazettes and Executions:
Night 1
The night turned out to be extremely restless: a drowned dead was seen at the sewer entrance, a couple of skirmishes occurred between elves and city drunks, and ghosts were circling near the cemetery. Fortunately, there were no deaths. Although there could have been victims.
Introduction, without semantic load
For example, Orton, who was slowly returning home, was suddenly attacked by a small group of foolish bandits. The poor fellow was pinned against the wall; they muttered something about a debt and threatened him with violence. To Orton's luck, a noble Knight happened to be passing by and stepped in for him. The bandits did not dare engage in a fight despite their numerical superiority and quickly retreated.
Bandits from Mogila attacked Orton, but he was protected by his own Sigismund
Someone was also looking after Wolfstet. Although the stranger tried every way to hide their presence, their athletic silhouette still flashed a couple of times in the shadows.
Protected by the witcher
Arandor was seen in the company of the famous bard. They spent half the night carousing in the "The Curly Bear" tavern, after which they also visited a brothel.
Watched by Dandelion
Toriy spent half the night running some foolish errands. He was terribly angry about it but endured with all his might — one cannot refuse such a person.
Block from Adda
Orton was so shocked by what happened to him that he literally lost the power of speech. Perhaps he should visit Lebeda's clinic.
For some reasons of their own, Alexeagle also decided to remain silent during the day.
Loss of voice from Vivardi and Declan.
Execution 1
Toriy has been executed
Late, a squad of guards captured their former commander. Captain Vincent was accused of betraying the crown and conspiring with foreign spies. A witcher was also present during the arrest by personal order of Princess Adda.1 As it turned out, not without reason. The guards arrived too late: while the captain was being led to prison, night fell and he turned into a ferocious werewolf. Geralt reacted instantly: he threw a silver chain at Vincent, paralyzing him. The werewolf flailed helplessly for not long, only one or two seconds, but that was all the witcher needed: a sharp jump and the silver sword went hilt-deep into Vincent's back.
-I hold no grudge against you, Geralt,- Mace said with his last strength,-you did what you had to. But now you are alone, alone against all these creatures. Do not stumble.
1- a hint that Vincent is NOT on the side of the order. The rest is filler:)
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Night 2
Neyra was unable to get out of her own house: the door and windows were locked, and the locks would not open even with a key. The window was even stranger — even throwing a chair could not break the glass.
Blokk Triss
Bandits attacked Orton again. This time they showed up right in his house, and this "party" looked far more dangerous than the previous one. One two-meter thug stood out especially among the others: his fist was nearly the size of Orton's head.1 The buyer tried to put up some resistance, but the big man knocked him out with a single blow.
At first, the bandits brutally tortured Orton, trying to beat information and money out of him, and when they realized he would say nothing — they slit the buyer's throat. May the eternal fire preserve his steadfast spirit!2
Orton finished off Mogila (hint at Mogila - bandits)
1 - reference to Yashchur)) Dinosaurs are huge reptiles, which is why the size of one of the bandits was so emphasized.
2 - reference to the fact that Orton played on the side of the Order.
Here I must confess a bit — during role generation, I didn't notice that Taler cannot play for the order. Phoenix noticed this somewhere on the first day. Since no one in the thread, or in ICQ/Skype on Taler's side drew particular attention to it at the time of editing, I decided not to reveal the correction. My apologies to those who were confused by this.
Alexeagle did not survive the night either.
-Greetings to you, madam,- a stranger standing on the threshold said with a smile,-forgive me for coming at such a late hour, but I must see the girl who rents a room from you.
-Hmph,- the old woman grumbled,-I see the girl has become quite loose! All sorts of types visiting her in the middle of the night.
-Not "types" at all,- the stranger calmly corrected the old woman,-but very respected and wealthy people.
A few coins glinted before the old woman, and she almost melted into a smile immediately.
-Come in, come in, dear man!- she stammered,-the girl is surely still awake! You won't disturb her at all.
He entered, smiled at the old woman once more, but this time cunningly, maliciously, and then, abruptly, even somewhat theatrically throwing his right hand forward, paralyzed her with a spell. He naturally took the coins back for himself. Then he went upstairs to the girl. She was already doing very poorly without the visitor: she lay by the table in convulsions. Having confused her potions in a daze, she had apparently taken the wrong mixture. The stranger was not at all bothered by the victim's condition; on the contrary — he laughed out loud.
-A pitiful sight,- he said,-but no matter. I will help you.
A powerful electrical charge pierced the girl's body; she jumped up and flew against the wall. The stranger smiled again.
-Now you will not hinder me on my path. Farewell, girl.
The second charge was the last for Alexeagle.
Murder by Magister Shani, magic, specifically non-fire magic, hint at Yakov.

Clue to the killer — his behavior and constant smiles. Reference to "
— A serious attitude toward anything in this world is a fatal mistake.
— And is life serious?
— Oh yes, life is serious! But not very…"
in Nefela's profile
Hint at Alex's role — the girl and "took the wrong potion". Game experts could also understand Alex's role directly from the description of the dwelling — in the game, Shani indeed rented a room from an old greedy woman. (Easter egg)
Also, Shani's general state was a reference to her visit to Yuzu
-For what??- bleeding out, asked
GodenDag,-for what, old friend3?
-You are no friend of mine!- the killer replied,-you are in league with those responsible for the theft of formulas from Kaer Morhen1!
-You've already killed one good, albeit strange man; now you kill another. What happened to you? What became of the person I knew and respected, whose friendship I valued?! The one who alone was not afraid to stand against an enraged mob?! Do you remember Rivia?Guided only by faith in goodness and justice with my sigil in hand, you alone stood up for non-humans!2
-That no longer matters...
A sharp blow ended the life of the dwarf3().[//QUOTE]
Geralt killed Zoltan.
1 - reference to Geralt
2 - clue to Arandor — "

We hold in our hearts the sword and the faith "
3 - references to GodenDag's role
One Dashenka was calm this night — her life was under reliable protection.
Siegfried's protection
With the coming of day, for unknown reasons, Arandor took a vow of silence
Loss of voice

Wishmaster ND overslept

Execution 2
Nefela was led to the execution in dimeritium bracelets. He held himself proudly, looking down upon the gathered crowd. And they feared him, despite the dimeritium. Even a mage deprived of his powers struck terror into hearts.
But ...a single blow of the axe instantly ended the life of this powerful man, and the crowd sighed with relief.[//QUOTE]
Dimeritium — reference to the mage. The pride with which the magister held himself — reference to high office and title.
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Night 3
This time it was Gur who unexpectedly turned out to be locked in. Unlike Neira, he didn't go throwing chairs at the windows.
Triss's block
In the evening the town builder looked somehow strange. He called over a trusted man and sent him on some important errand.
Redirection
Yashurwas not much loved in town, or rather not loved at all1. But he cared little about that. Money and power - that's what mattered. And his current connections could provide a rather nice life, even if a criminal one. But unexpectedly someone showed up calling himself a harbinger of justice, and the sword he held was already in his hand, not in its sheath. The henchmen came running quickly, but no one could match the famous fencer3 in combat. He deftly dodged, parried, sprang aside, and then struck down one enemy after another with precision and lethal force.2 Coldly, without pity or remorse.
When it was all over the head of
Yashurlay in one corner of the room, and the body in another.[/QUOTE]
Geralt killed Mogila.
1 - hint at Yashur's role, see Mogila's description
2 - "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee" - "Butterfly House" in Arandor's profile.
3 - reference to Geralt
Kitz Kitsunya spent the morning enjoying wonderful music and poetry.
Dandelion's surveillance
Wolfstet worked calmly, knowing that today she was definitely in no danger.
Geralt's protection
But Rudy ate something that made his tongue go numb for the whole day.
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Results of Day 3
No one was hanged
Leveraging his extensive connections and influence, Leuvaarden managed to convince the burgomeister and the Vizima nobility that it was worth not jumping to conclusions and better to take an extra day to think it over.[/QUOTE]
Leuvaarden's "day action"

Night 4
Arandor spent the whole night hunting blood-drinking cockatrices
Adda's block (easter egg)
The Winner couldn't even leave his house
Triss's block
Late at night, into the house of
Toxcame several guards under the command of an unknown figure.1The dwarf2 and his entire family3 were accused of ties to criminals and, accordingly, of high treason. The death sentence was carried out on the spot and personally by the mysterious figure - three quick dagger thrusts to the heart ended the life of Tox.[/QUOTE]
Gur's murder of Vivaldi
1 - reference to Addda
2 - reference to Vivaldi.
3 - evidence on Gur - "To avoid any unnecessary and slightly tiresome questions, I hasten to note that the avatar is a personal photo of mine from a family album..."
After the night's events, Amko went mute, possibly from overexertion.
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Execution 4
Amko was executed

As with any other sorceress1, the nobility mildly disliked Foltest's advisor1. So the news of her accusation was met almost with glee. That same evening the girl was seized, led to the main square, where she was tied to a large post, surrounded with straw and brushwood, and burned alive as a witch. The witcher, busy all day hunting the cockatrice in the sewers, arrived too late. By then, of his beloved, only a charred corpse remained...
1 - references to Amko's role

Night 5
In the morning the nobility were actively whispering about the burgomeister. Rumor has it that he is preparing some plan. At any rate, at night he was very active.
Redirection
Wishmaster was walking in the company of a famous minstrel when a squad of guards led by a red-haired girl emerged from an alley at them. Wishmaster was seized and they were about to lead him to the dungeon, but the bard, through his eloquence, managed to persuade the beauty to show mercy.
Gur attacked Wishmaster, but Neira saved him. Neira herself did not die because Adda is a female character.
In a brutal fashion,
Kitz Kitsunkawas killed that night: the poor thing was hacked to pieces, and then the body was doused with acid1 and mutilated beyond recognition.[/QUOTE]
There are no hints at the roles here.
1 - Ara's profile has "We hold in our hearts the sword and the faith" - a line from a song by the band My Chemical Romance
Gur felt completely safe all night.
Siegfried's protection
As for Neira, she was seized by a fever in the morning - apparently the poor thing will have to stay in bed the whole day.
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Now, regarding the game itself:

First, I'll shed some light on the negative aspects.
1) Tox and Wolfstet violated the game rules and should have both received a modkill. I didn't issue it mainly because I didn't want to disrupt the game's balance – the town would have instantly lost without those two players.
The blame here lies more with Tox, as it was likely his impulsiveness that led to this.
What to do with him/them in the future is a question for future GMs. I'm just conveying the information without making any suggestions.
2) Sanctuary didn't really participate in the game, nor even in the Mafia chat, even though he had the technical ability to do so.
I believe that with such an attitude towards the 17 participants, his team, and the host, he shouldn't be included in future games.

As for the game itself, I think it provided some good food for thought.
Firstly, I think it clearly demonstrated that there's nothing wrong with allowing players to write during the night. On the contrary, it only positively affects the quality of the game.
Secondly, the discussions and reveals seemed less tense to me. Of course, the game was still somewhat unbalanced and lost some of its intrigue towards the end, but still.
I don't think the reveals gave the town an even greater advantage. Look at it this way: the entire town revealed themselves, and the Mafia simply united. After that, the town's chances significantly decreased, and if the Mafia had been luckier during the night, one of them would have definitely won. So, the town still played incorrectly because they exposed all their roles at once. If the Witch hadn't had such strong protection, I think there would have been no chance at all.
Further, I'll note that the game ultimately devolved into a tactical one. This type of game has its own advantages and its own fans, but, in my opinion, it's not quite Mafia anymore. However, the reason for this ending is not the reveals, but rather the setting itself. The role distribution mechanism allowed for a certain degree of balance, which is confirmed by the game's ending, where the revealed town almost lost, but the overall number of roles is still too large. More roles without night defense are needed, and then the town will be forced to protect its active roles, and it will be easier for the Mafia to hide.

Now, regarding the players themselves.
I liked the play of both Mafia teams; their interest and active discussion of all the details in the Mafia chats were enjoyable. The town played at a good level; I wouldn't even say that anyone played poorly. The thing is that for most players, this setup was new, and no one fully knew how to play it effectively. Therefore, there were some mistakes, but it wasn't a complete failure.
The only negative point I'll mention is that you shouldn't lash out at each other so harshly in the game thread during an unfinished game. You need to be more tolerant. Yes, there were violations, and of course, the other side is upset that their chances are being reduced because of these moments, but in the end, it's just a game. Express your complaints at least after the game is over, not during it:)

I think I've said everything...)

Anyway, thank you to all the participants for the game:)
In my opinion, together we created a not-so-bad 62nd Mafia game
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We need to create more roles without Non-Disclosure Agreements.
Hmm... I don't like this idea... :smile27: :smile48:
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I was just passing by. How did Tox and Wolfie manage to break the rules? :smile04: Did they post screenshots about getting roles?
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Ment
I was just passing by. How did Tox and Wolfie manage to break the rules? :smile04: Did they post screenshots about getting roles?
They were discussing something off-topic.:mad:
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How did Tox and Wolfi manage to break the rules? :smile04: Did they post screenshots about receiving roles?
Tox revealed information he shouldn't have known, let's call it that; this is if we're talking about how they were identified. And if we're talking about the fact that they broke the rules, then yes, it was "discussion outside of the game topic."
Hmm... I don't like this idea...:smile27: :smile48:
Well, everyone has their own opinion:)
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The henchmen arrived quickly, but none could compare to the famous swordsman in battle. He deftly dodged, parried, leaped back, and then accurately and lethally struck one enemy after another. Coldly, without regret or pity.
I remember when someone wrote that it was Adda, I lost faith in humanity. Then, when I found out that there was indeed a translation, I was surprised why you described the murder as if it were done by Geralt. But it turns out that everything is described correctly. And yes, sorry that I didn't find a picture of Geralt from the game; I just didn't get around to it. But you still found a good option.
Further, I would like to note that the game itself, in its ending, still leaned towards tactical gameplay.
I think the reason for this is the allowance of autopsies in the underworld mafia. There is too much information about clues and blocks; if you add autopsies to them, everything turns into tactics, and that's not good.
And since my post was moved by moderator's whim, I want to congratulate the city on its victory once again and especially emphasize the merits of Arandor and Neyra. Vishmaster, of course, translated well, but he completely failed to reflect on the fact that the murder of the Tomb was clearly committed by a witcher (although Vish claimed to be well acquainted with the setting).
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First of all, it seems to me that it has been clearly demonstrated that there is nothing wrong with allowing players to write at night.
In general, yes, this rule can be canceled.
More roles without ND should be introduced.
And I agree with that. This is the only way to balance the setting while maintaining a large number of players. But this reduces interest in the role. Therefore, you can introduce more diverse counter-roles (for example, Éowyn in relation to a Nazgûl). The chance of a successful action for such a role is low, and it can only work once. But ND can still be useful, so it encourages the player to use it. And at the same time, play more attentively.
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But this diminishes interest in the role. Therefore, you can introduce more diverse counter-roles (for example, Éowyn in relation to the Nazgûl). The chance of a successful action for such a role is low, and it can only work once. But even so, it can be useful, which encourages the player to use it. And at the same time, it encourages them to play more attentively.
The idea is good, but the issue lies elsewhere.
It's a simple human factor: some people enjoy playing with a strong role, while others don't want to think about nighttime strategies every time. Another thing is that there aren't that many people who specifically enjoy daytime play in the game; you could probably count them on one hand.
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Even if I wanted to play, I wouldn't be able to handle such a strong and important role.
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In this game, there was no need to carry the team.
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They could have put me in on the first day, and I would have seen if it "wasn't necessary."

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Although... Never mind, it's a rhetorical question; the game would have changed drastically, and that's all.

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