Posts from Мафия 62. The Witcher

Preliminary vote.
Neyra - 1 vote (Dasha)
Phoenix - 1 vote (Tox)
Dasha - 1 vote (Rudyy)
Vish - 1 vote (Kits)
Nephela - 1 vote (Wolfstet)

The fact that the votes are scattered is not ideal. If no one intends to support me, I will switch my vote to Nephela in an hour. I urge others to do the same, because only by voting together can we prevent another town resident from being executed at the end of the day.

To be honest, I don't particularly like Nefelka's behavior either, but Ar is right, we still need to think about the snails.

Hmm... it seems like a lot has been written here while I was away, sentence by sentence... but it's all permeated with a certain understanding of the actions and an attempt to present everything based on that, rather than a desire to consider all possible scenarios and then use that to determine who is who, and also, I don't quite understand the behavior; for example, why does Arandor keep appearing as a peaceful player, and why are my actions somehow suspicious?
It seems that not only I am having trouble analyzing the clues?

Now, let's try to figure out who we have in the game:
Town:
Lyutik
Geralt
Triss
Mafia 1:
Azar
Professor
Mafia 2:
Yakov
Adda
Neutrals:
Velerad -
Sigfried - not a salamander
Jailer - Rudyy
Declan -
Detective - Tox?
Gravedigger - probably mafia?

And yet, half of the neutrals are mafia.

In the first night, someone attacked Orton; no other attacks were visible, and there was a block on the Captain. What did the mafia do? And why was the attack attributed to the Gravedigger? The Salamanders seem to be all bandits, according to the description.
Based on this, it is most likely that the Salamanders attacked Orton, and what did the second mafia do? Self-block? (Captain) - unlikely. Did they get caught in self-defense? - possible. Block + check/shield/extra votes - possible, but strange. Block + nothing - also possible, if there was nothing interesting in the roles, but they decided not to kill. Let's go back to the first mafia - what is the second night action? And was there one? As with the second mafia, there are many possibilities.
Second night: we see both mafia kills, we see protection and silencing.
What are the possibilities for the second night actions? And who among the neutrals is on the side of the mafia and who is on the side of the town? Can this be determined only by the night events? Based on the fact that we don't see the second silencing - either it failed, or it might be a town member. Nothing more can be said. Geralt will find out who the detective is after the 3rd night, because if the detective is on the side of the town, he will send information to Geralt, which the latter should verify (he needs to come up with a way to do this based on the circumstances).
Also, Geralt will get to know Triss on the 3rd day - which is also important...
From the chronicles, I don't see anything else. I can't decipher the clues. But the way some players start attributing certain neutrals to the mafia or the town - I don't like it.

Now, about the players themselves... I don't like: Yaschur, Nefela, Gur, Arandor, Sanctuary, Tox, WishmasteR... I would also add Neyra here, but she seems to be Lyutik.
I like: Dashenka, Wulfi, Kitz - although the latter is pushing too hard, choosing only one probability out of all possibilities, and seems to consider all other options as heresy, and doubts about the players as mafia.
Now, Amko and Rudyy raise some doubts.
Since Arandor and Tox are in my first list, let me explain:

The first is a fairly strong player and can easily pretend to be a peaceful player and lead the town throughout the game, thereby leading to defeat. In this game, he is too straightforward, which may be characteristic of the mafia - because here, the main thing is to choose a set of suspicious players who are not in your group and try to lead the town through them throughout the game.
The behavior of the second is difficult to say... strange, but maybe that's the plan? Of course, he seemed to be revealing himself as a town member all the time, but let's think about his role if he's not lying... Detective? Would a town member behave like that with such a role? I think it's a very interesting role... it's all very suspicious...

But since I'm not sure who they are, I will vote like this:
Execute Zlobny Yaschur - his behavior is too passive + the "steadfast spirit" is associated with the law of conservation - I don't know why...

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Preliminary.
Neyra - 1 vote (Dasha)
Phoenix - 1 vote (Tox)
Dasha - 1 vote (Rudyy)
Vish - 1 vote (Kitz)
Nefela - 1 vote (Wolfstet)

The fact that the votes are scattered - I don't like it, if no one intends to support me - in an hour I will switch to Nefela. I urge the others to do the same, because only by voting together can we prevent another town member from being executed at the end of the day.

I agree with this, but we need to execute a mafia member, not accidentally vote for our own.
If necessary, I'm ready to change my vote! But not to the one you indicate... you are on my list - I don't know which side to put you on...

I don't like: Yashur, Nefela, Gur, Arandor, Sanctuary, Tox, WishmasteR...

As far as I understand, Yashur is liked by only one Zubr, who isn't playing right now. And Tox, by the way, has been exposed and is clearly peaceful. What's wrong with him? Do you want to eliminate him?:smile04:

Execute Evil Yashur - his behavior is too passive.

Yeah. Yashur is either suspiciously active or suspiciously passive. Let's hang him.:mad:

Execute Phenix. I don't understand the attack on 99% peaceful Tox.

Regarding Nefela, I don't think she fits into the strong city-based roles. If there wasn't a redirect, then she's a likely suspect. As for Yashur, he doesn't seem to be associated with any particular faction right now.

Uh-huh. The Lizard is either suspiciously active or suspiciously passive. Let's get rid of him.:mad:

Execute Phoenix. I don't understand the attack on the 99% peaceful Tox.

1) I never said you were active, because you are not. And you change your decisions too quickly - that's what I wrote about.
2) I expected you to respond against me, especially since Tox is voting against me, and you are relying on him to defend you... which once again identifies you as a Mafia member.

My comments about Tox are nothing more than doubts about his innocence, and it's very strange that you trust his investigation so much, which doesn't say anything about his side yet. And the alleged "fuel" and other things can easily be faked... he was added to the list of suspects so that people don't relax about him; anything can happen... especially since, in my opinion, his role is more than interesting.

Phoenix, it hasn't been opened by a detective.

Mafke Fene doesn't like almost the entire town =(

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I can still understand why Kitz might be a Mafia member (she's a strong player in psychology, she easily pretends to be a Town member and doesn't get caught throughout the game), but Arandor and Tox. I don't know. In my opinion, Arandor is definitely on the Town's side. Tox also didn't position himself as a Mafia member.

Phoenix, he wasn't investigated by the detective.

Really? Then who investigated him?

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I can still understand why Kitz might be Mafia (she's a strong player in psychology, she easily pretends to be a Townie and doesn't get caught throughout the game), but Arandor and Tox. I don't know. Arandor, in my opinion, is definitely Town. Tox also didn't position himself as Mafia.

I don't see any difference in Ar's gameplay whether he's Town or Mafia. Tox doesn't position himself at all – he just revealed his role and that's it... and a lot of hysterics... can Mafia really play like that?
Kitz... I don't know, I don't know, I still consider her Town...
And in general, Lyutik, can you explain why you've believed in Ar in this game almost from the very beginning?
And regarding my suspicions about a large number of players – that's always how I am. Do you really dislike it so much? And every time you try to execute me for it? You've already executed me twice... and how were the Doctor and who was I in the second round?
The truth is, the first and second time, I found the Mafia player I pointed out... now I'm not sure if I've found anyone... will you execute me for that?))))

I never said you were active, because you weren't.

You weren't there. The activity was in the game with Menta. At that time, I allowed myself to accuse the mafia player Tox of providing false evidence against me. Result: I was banned for "excessive activity." :mad:

As far as I remember, only Rudy did outright reveals. Tox only made *subtle* hints. But there wasn't any detective work involved in uncovering it.

Tox made such hints so that, if necessary, he could pretend to be playing a different role if he started getting harassed. It’s better to either stay silent or be straightforward, rather than behave in this way.

Phoenix, you wrote nonsense about Salamander bandits. Reread the role descriptions and you’ll understand why he was killing specifically Necropolis units.

Phoenix, you wrote nonsense about the Salamander bandits. Reread the role descriptions and you'll understand why it was Necropolis who was killing.

I carefully read the description of the roles. Both Salamanders and Necropolis could have been the killers, but the cruelty and growth indicate the leader of the Salamanders.
Quote about the leader of the Salamanders?

A rogue mage from Zerrikannia. He was expelled from his order for excessive cruelty and an addiction to drugs. He led the attack on Kaer Morhen to seize the secrets of the witchers, to serve his inhumane experiments. The leader of a criminal organization known as the Salamanders.

Now let's look at the picture and remember the plot... the height of this "mage"...

Of course, I might be wrong, but if Necropolis killed both times, then he is definitely from the Salamanders; it's hard to believe that the Salamanders could have ended up in a self-defense situation twice.

Tox made such hints so that, if necessary, he could pretend to be someone else if they started to attack him. It's better to either keep silent or be straightforward, rather than behave in this way.

And I think I understand why Tox made hints instead of being explicit:smile26:. And it has nothing to do with wanting to pretend to be someone else later:smile04:.

Preliminary voting.
Neyra - 1 vote (Dasha)
Phoenix - 2 votes (Tox, Yashur)
Dasha - 1 vote (Rudyy)
Vish - 1 vote (Kits)
Nephela - 1 vote (Wolfstet)
Yashur - 1 vote (Phoenix)

Guys, can you please make up your minds about the votes? I don't like the Neyra option among the candidates. I'd rather wait with Vish, as there's not much information about him. I wouldn't want a pointless death.