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How so? I meant what possible advantage there could be, if nothing depends on the players here... The first player's advantage is that when they have day 1, the second still has day 7, but this was fixed by forbidding the 1st player from attacking the second with growth born on that day... And the second player's advantage is that they see the movement of computer heroes during the turn transition, but we play without computers. So ask any online player on the forum and they will tell you that it is absolutely unimportant who is first and who is second! ... and do not compare CHESS to Heroes - they have many fundamental differences (your example was a failure) P.S. And in general Axe! ... take it easy! ... you've scribbled a whole essay over my three lines, and this isn't the first time. You probably write down all your thoughts, even the stupid ones.... This is why, for example, there is the phrase:IronAxe;97104