Connection ErrorBad RequestSession ExpiredSign in requiredForbiddenNot FoundToo Many RequestsServer ErrorBad GatewayService UnavailableGateway TimeoutHTTP Version Not Supported
Session Expired
Your session has expired. Please log in to continue.
Sign in required
You need an account to do that. Sign in or create one — it only takes a minute.
Request Failed
We encountered an issue while processing your request.
Please check your internet connection and try again.
Error Details:
Share Link
злой_романтикStatistics
Registered:
Posts:3,652
#1087
Auto-translated
OK, now it's my turn to speak :) At first, I was on Diabler's side, maybe because I had only communicated with him, but then I wrote to Heroin, talked, got the ICQ logs, and formed my own IMHO. The situation is, of course, ambiguous, but... I used to play chess, and I often saw this situation among young players: one declares checkmate, the other cries, drools, scrambles the pieces, but signs the score sheet. His coach comes over, they sit down and analyze the game, and then bam, there’s no checkmate at all—the king can escape... What to do? Run to the judge screaming "He cheated meeee"? And what is the judge supposed to do? Force a replay or continue from the same point? These weren't little kids playing, but experienced players with hundreds of games under their belts. Maybe personally, in Heroin's place, I would have acted differently, but I can't force him to replay or agree to a draw—it's his right. If they agree to a rematch, I'll give them time, no problem. I'll take the risk of posting Pit's words on the forum, which were said in the AK section about this game, since it's unclear when he'll show up, and the situation is controversial. There's nothing secret here, apparently, just listen to the opinion of one of the most respected members of the community.
Quote: Message from злой_романтик In the OFB, during the Diabler-Heroin game, another controversial situation has arisen on the topic of PR...
What kind of controversial situation is this? Heroin complained to me today, I saw the logs of their conversations... This is not called a controversial situation—it's catastrophic noobery.
Diabler admitted defeat, the situation has been played out, the saves have been opened. What is there even to discuss?
Who's to blame that we start learning the rules after the game, not before?
OK, so we don't know the rules. We did something, we ourselves don't know what... There's no need to open saves, no need to admit defeat. You need to go to the judge and find out what the rules actually say and how to interpret them in this specific situation.
And let them set HeroesWorld rules. Even Satyr and I played a final with a patch, largely to have a reminder about PR, which on Jebus Cross can, from my point of view, really screw you over.
Generally speaking, it's easier to learn the rules once and follow them than to rewrite them every two weeks for a specific situation, causing other disputes. People also can't constantly read news about rule changes. I do major revisions no more than once a year. I add minor clarifications all the time.
Not once in any final of any tournament I've participated in (and there were 2-3 dozen such finals) have the rules contributed to one player's victory and another's defeat. What matters is skill, mistakes, and the generator. And the rules are the same for both players