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Mish-gan
For Mdance - Let's skip the formalities, be more straightforward! Post #12, I repeat - read what you write (this is about Wing), and in everything else, you overcomplicated things, but essentially you contradict yourself. You are far from practice, play more!
And I will repeat to you once again - you, sir, are being rude (and making mistakes).
valery
I watched the replay. It's very revealing. Question to the player: on what map did you play? And did the Elf have a chance to finish the game earlier?
No. Arghat doesn't give anyone such a chance. The endgame only happens when Arghat wants it to - that's her specialization. :D
The map is Three Rivers, as antonag07 already said. Slightly modified, because the map was created by Erdovet for version 1.3. I added stronger monsters, dwellings, and a mentor. And I play it if I need to check something in the late game with large armies. For example, we tried Warlocks on "big meat" (about 45 Dragons). Also, hero level 30+. His army looks quite decent. Especially the Minotaurs with double strike. Chains with Combat Alchemy and three cities deal insane damage. But Orcs still rule - Anti-Chaos and all that... I even uploaded replays somewhere here at some point. I played with Ayle (he was even a moderator here at some point). And in this replay, Nerevar played as the Elf. Will you doubt his competence?:smile08:
valery
Regarding the Elf's upgrade: maybe it would have been worth going for Sharp Mind and casting Enchanted Arrow on a few Berserkers.
This is the vulnerability of the Elves' racial ability - you can simply not find the cursed ones, especially if the area with all sorts of Treasure Rooms and other goodies has already been cleared, because there are usually a lot of neutrals guarding it. And if you find them and place them, it's dangerous to cast Berserk on Cyclops at all - they will attack the Elven troops.
valery
And finally, I'm really looking forward to a replay of Mdance vs. Mish-gan.
There won't be such a replay. The game should be enjoyable. What pleasure can there be in playing with an uneducated boor?
valery
P.S. I sincerely don't understand the point of playing as Outcasts for 4 months. If opponents start on the same level, then you can come in on the 2nd-3rd week.
Likewise. I don't understand what you can do there either.
Lordesat
This is exactly the basis of my tactic. Several Berserkers or several Subjugations.
Learn the basics - you can't have several Subjugations. Several Berserkers - yes, you can. But here's the problem - you need to find the right cursed ones and know that the opponent will use exactly this development scheme.
Lordesat
It was definitely necessary to take Sharp Mind, then no Cyclops would help.
Actually, the opponent had Sharp Mind - this is visible in the replay. Winraell moves much earlier than Arghat, although Arghat was moving on the morale scale of her army (a full set of Knight).
Lordesat
I saw what happens to the opponent's army. And I think Mr. Mdance was just lucky, because those same Druids and Archers could have been placed on different sides of the map and protected.
You have no idea what it means to "protect" against Free Cyclops. This, unfortunately, is a fact.
Lordesat
The Elf had few Dragons, and there was no absolute luck. It was also possible to learn Readiness.
Yes... +3 Dragons and Absolute Luck on 6 (!!!) attacking actions would undoubtedly have turned everything in favor of the Elf. :smile52:
Lordesat
But in general, I wouldn't say that Orcs 100% beat Elves, so I don't agree with mish-gun here. The Orc just collected artifacts, and it would be interesting to see Arghat play, it's good that you can develop so quickly in a short time.
We're not talking about who beats whom. We're talking about the fact that this scheme deprives the Elf (because we're talking about leveling up in "Fallen Ranger", although it's more correct to say "Fallen", not "Falling") of the basis for casting - an army. And Darkness implies an army. Because a lot of weakening and curses for the enemy, so that our army beats him harder. And here - bam! and we don't have an army yet before casting.
Lordesat
I have a question for mdance regarding the replay. Arghat goes first and casts a war cry. But Winraell goes second and sees that there will be two consecutive turns for the Cyclops. Why, I ask, doesn't he do anything and skips his turn? This is complete stupidity. If he had immediately subjugated the Cyclops, the Orc would be doomed. I just can't understand how the Elf could be so stupid.
No, I already told you that you don't know how to watch replays. Before the battle, they simply show the heroes and that the Orc's armies get 1 level of Fury (due to 3 cities). They (the heroes) don't move at this time. Winraell moves first after the Cyclops have hit twice and destroyed half of the Elf's army, precisely because of Sharp Mind - when he casts Berserk on Centaurs. If there was no Sharp Mind, he would have moved much later. And the Centaurs would have shot at least once.
By the way, the conversations about "army superiority" have ended. At least I taught the opponents something, namely - to think and read carefully. :D
By the way, I created a dueling preset for Garuna based on this development scheme. There, there definitely cannot be any superiority in the army or artifacts, because everything is limited. You can see how it tears apart standard heroes from standard dueling presets, not even giving them a chance to move.
Yes, a curious fact - the Cold Lord perk, which gives "freezing" of the enemy unit when casting Water element spells, is useless against such a strike stack. Because it can still attack even in a "frozen" state without moving on the ATB, because it is moved by the Leaders and the hero.

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