1 I grew out of the "small flexes" age, as you put it, a long time ago... in this response, you've basically only commented on my words and added nothing new—that's actually hurtful... I was waiting... in the previous post, while commenting on something with one sentence, I continued to comment, but this time you didn't even stoop to that... where is the respect for the opponent here... This isn't "stubbornness" at all; I simply truly believe that I am right on this matter.
2... demagoguery happens in front of a large audience, which we don't have... I am communicating with you and proving it to you...

3 You were the one who started bringing up these examples, and I was being ironic just so you would understand and stop using this fact, which is essentially useless...

4 I get the impression that you don't understand anything of what I'm trying to convey to you—it's terrible... although at your age, I also didn't want to understand or listen to others...

5 The metamorphoses of language did not affect the knowledge passed down to us... and I mentioned all these metamorphoses in detail... it's as if you're reading me every other line...

6 (a comment unrelated to the dispute) Which word is used matters a lot... if a child says "papa" first, wouldn't that be doubly pleasant for you?... by the way, why is the example incorrect? You just don't understand it yet... and I told you about the fact of pronunciation as well... why always comment on me with your own words but say the same thing... I don't get it...

7 If you study English properly in school... tutors are no longer needed... tutors are usually hired for knowledge of a second language or when applying to a linguistics department... why are there few paths... in our age of language development, any language can be learned via video, listening to discs, numerous textbooks, etc. Isn't that the development of language?

eh-he-heh. Such situations have always amused me. 1 whoever writes the last long and smart post refuting the opponent's reasoning is the winner..
2 demagoguery
3 "which is cooler"? it seems to me that this smells of nonsense
4 is language the spiritual foundation of a nation? isn't language an instrument of communication, thanks to which these foundations can be transmitted?
I can reason about the fragility of existence, but without understanding these words themselves, they would give me very little.
5 and the "language of ancestors" has undergone terrible metamorphoses, as you know yourself.
6 the essence is not the word as such, but the same fact of a child pronouncing their first word. Is that not so? But the example is incorrect.
7 exactly. few paths. either a teacher/tutor, or—rarely—a translator..
8 yes. much in the world is interconnected. often one cannot exist without the other. but here we are proving not the "sole correctness" of mathematics or language, but greater significance.

8 Come on... it hasn't even been a year since you put my thought—which I've already said dozens of times—into your own words; so it finally sank in?... phew.... humanity could have easily continued to exist without mathematics... but without communication and language—no... isn't that significant? There would be fewer machines and technologies, and thank God for that...

9 I just asked how you studied to understand why you seemed to treat school so poorly... it makes a difference... when applying to many educational institutions... like MIT, for example...

10 this would lead to a more ecological outcome :)

11 and did I place restrictions on anyone's rights? I just said that poems are born on their own... and I know poets without you... epiphanies happen—when you write in one breath, almost without thinking, and that is always the most successful..."without fitting into conventions"—why use conventions when you need to see the poems, imagine them, and the words will come themselves... that's my same-opinion...

9 and if having a medal makes no difference to you, why mention it? To flex or something? Or what did you want to say by that?

10 cars also spoil the environment. And humanity could live without them, relying exclusively on horses in the 21st century. But would that lead to a good outcome?
No one said that humanity would never destroy itself.

11 let every person decide for themselves, okay?
And mood alone or a single thought you want to express won't write a poem for you. It seems "this is the lot of true masters—rhyme, falling from the pen to the paper effortlessly"... without fitting into conventions.

12 ...generally, one wise person once said—"do not feed me the poison of others' utterances." ..... without bothering to clothe your judgments in your own form, but this will not contribute to triumph in any way. Please take note.

12 The examples of statements specifically referred to the thoughts I tried to convey to you before and were based on my reasoning, and I looked into the collection of aphorisms later because there are very beautiful expressions there that I agree with... I don't need your "note"... I love aphorisms... what does triumph have to do with this—I'm not petty... I love a lively discussion... your attempt at "demagoguery" about trees killed me... I was in shock... it truly just takes up space + usually, people try to give the most significant examples at the end... and then there's this...

13 I wasn't "inflamed," I merely caught the spirit of your not-so-courteous and respectful tone, and parried in the same vein, which seems to have had some effect.

14 well yes, well yes. only you forget one tiiiiny detail. as I already said, we are not here to discuss harmony and interaction; we are here to prove specifically the greater significance of the item drawn from the lot machine.

15 you speak of the poverty of my arguments, while you yourself provide none. except for attempts to refute mine.
by the way, I understand your attacks—you passionately desire to out-argue your opponent, but this should not turn into an internal strife.
if you're interested, I feel about you just as before, quite well.

13 Ordinary reasoning with questions for the opponent... the tone is perfectly normal—discussing, correcting, and being slightly indignant at stupid examples—I have that right... + I don't see respect for the opponent, since you don't bother yourself with convincing examples at all...

14 In my opinion, it's actually you who finally grasped this little detail from my reasoning regarding your quotes... these were more like corrections to get you back on the right track... one must prove things, but first and foremost, one must think and reason about the opponent's proofs... without asking yourself "am I right?", you cannot achieve results in a discussion; for some reason, you believe that everything here is already proven even without you...

15 open your eyes and reread everything in your spare time... I already said you just see nothing... and don't want to see... I keep trying to get through to you, but you couldn't care less... I also haven't changed my attitude toward the opponent at all...
"you passionately desire to out-argue"—no, funny, I'm just truly 100% sure that I'm right... what can you say about that...

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Human strength is largely unnecessary now... Consequently, a process of degradation is occurring... just look at how people drive these cars... many absolutely do not want to think about what they are doing... this naturally leads to accidents... weapons too—someone thought it up, calculated it, but didn't bother thinking about the consequences... new technologies destroy nature… and most of these innovations, sometimes completely unnecessary, are introduced by manufacturers for the purpose of their own enrichment... so in many ways, I do not approve of the same-time excessive "mathematical" progress...

Our physicists are no longer needed—their cuts are 5 times higher… geologists, biologists, that's yesterday's news… professions are dying out ...especially mathematical ones, when the ceiling is already open... but language will remain in its place... it is important regardless of all factors...


Mathematics is a weapon...
Language is politics...
If you know how to reach an agreement, do you need a weapon?
I believe this is correct and will continue to defend it...

language is a massive system of communication... without which nothing in our human world would move toward development...

"I mean the language of ancestors that you speak... which is thousands of years old and continues to develop to this day, as new words appear, styles of communication change, speech, generations, and this knowledge is passed from mouth to mouth (everything we know, all the experience of generations since the appearance of writing and speech) and it will always be so, while other technologies, having reached their maximum peak, will cease to exist"... here I wanted to emphasize above all the transmission of experience, without which every generation would have to start everything from scratch and we would simply never have developed to the current level...

P.S. I'll write more after work...