Well... Both of these sciences are worldviews... that's why I'm trying to prove to you which one is more paramount in importance... and you're just chewing the same old thing again... For a person of any nation, knowledge of their native language is extraordinarily important for preserving their spiritual foundations...
Every word of a language, every form it takes, is the result of human thought and feeling, through which the nature of the country and the history of the people are reflected in the word. (K. Ushinsky)

Mathematics is a mercenary science... language is a system of communication and cognition of the world...
In my opinion, there are two types of science - fundamental and applied (financial)... so, language belongs to the first, and mathematics to the second... All over the world, mathematical sciences have long been merely an industrial business. Everything is for sale.
We don't discover anything new; we only slowly rediscover the old things established with the foundation of the world... there are no new molecules; they are only new to us, even though they were formed millennia ago...
The development of mechanical engineering will lead to the obsolescence of labor—an era will come where it's impossible to find a place in this world without global knowledge of the maximum amount of information...
New mathematical innovations and ideas are just a way for poor mathematicians to earn even a little bit, because there is no work for them... only accounting and management are mathematically important now, so they can chew over annual money reports... Long ago—realizing this—I left MIFI (Moscow Engineering Physics Institute) and took up a profession that is not subject to full automation by machines and is needed against the backdrop of general mechanization, since people want to see at least something beautiful in the dusty cities around them...
And I don't think you can force a person to prove theorems if they don't want to. And our youth, in my opinion, don't want anything but money... and they know mathematics exclusively at the level of calculating their salary... (meaning about 60-70% of the population)

By weapons, I obviously meant numerous atomic and chemical motivations... "language is more dangerous than a pistol"—what does that expression about people who can't master it have to do with this!!! :confused:

and first, by the way, they are taught letters from a primer. then numbers and words. and only then do they start drawing scribbles in notebooks)

I studied in zero grade... that's between kindergarten and first... first they teach letters, and only then numbers...

crosswords teach you not to think, but only to dig through memory and the subconscious in search of the right word...

And the subconscious just appears, does it? Is it genetically predisposed again? The main thing is vocabulary!!!

if we put the question that way, then perhaps sudoku develops thinking...

Yeah right... entertainment for people unable to think spatially and reflect... this is an elementary task that only shows how few people in our country possess mathematics even at a minimal level... and that doesn't speak in favor of your reasoning...

the main information comes from books, yes. but how to apply it? this is where the "mathematical" centers start working.

Is everything in your brain synchronized like a public library—what "mathematical" centers!!!??? Do you start reasoning mathematically before answering someone? :D exactly, books-speech are the main information, you finally admitted it yourself, while mathematics was created (until the 17th century it consisted only of simple calculations and geometric figures)......

didn't work :D
but I don't see any clarifications

Exactly!!! I'm waiting for specific reasoning from you regarding my specifically posed question...

sigh.. please don't hyperbolize. the fact that a person's interests vary according to age by no means implies a pattern of "the younger, the stupider".

No need for filth—I have never held such an opinion ("the younger, the stupider")... but with age, vocabulary increases thousands of times... and interest in specialized books and scientific treatises grows—does it not?

And it's not surprising, year after year - the same "n, nn", "zhi-shi", commas, etc.

My God! Is it possible that over your school years, from lower to upper grades, your essays didn't reach a new level of expressing your thoughts... and phrases didn't become more complex after studying complex sentence structures... Forgive my impertinence... question... with what medal did you graduate?

while mathematics continues to open all new horizons, and therefore develops the person. and at least provides them with new information.

How far gone everything is... can't you see that applied science deals with using already formed theories in organizational and engineering practice for the purpose of financial return... while many brilliant specialists remained beyond the horizon and see no new goals for themselves...

while the expression of thoughts through speech or writing is, in essence, always the same, and an alternative arises only when selecting the right definitions/rhymes, limited only by the poverty of language.

Poverty of language? Or poverty of thought? So 10 digits are cooler than billions of words?

without these frames - the flow of words would be uncontrollable and would require minimum effort - to remember how a certain phenomenon/object/quality/etc. is designated

If you can't find new sensations, then in order not to become a mathematical robot, it's time for you to drop your calculations and turn to developing your imagination... because after your words, I became afraid for your perception of the world... all objects and phenomena can be perceived in thousands of gradations and billions of colors... even asphalt can be described differently... one day it shimmers with reflections in puddles... another it's strewn with autumn leaves, a third it reddens from the glow of the sunset... my ideas and impressions even about it are essentially limitless...

logic, what is it.. a branch of rational, mathematical thinking.

Logic (Ancient Greek λογική "science of reasoning", "art of reasoning" from λόγος — "speech", "reasoning") is the science of forms, methods, and laws of intellectual cognitive activity, formalized using a logical language. Since this knowledge is obtained by reason, logic is also defined as the science of (correct) thinking. Since thinking is shaped in language in the form of reasoning, a special case of which are proof and refutation, logic is sometimes defined as the science of methods of reasoning or the science of methods of proofs and refutations. Logic as a science studies ways of achieving truth in the process of cognition by an indirect path, not from sensory experience, but from previously obtained knowledge; therefore, it can also be defined as the science of methods for obtaining derivative knowledge.
I advise you to check the meaning of terminology more often :D

mathematics is logic, and the search for rational solutions in order to be able to reach an agreement.

Reach an agreement mathematically??? :D yes... probably possible... by means of monetary masses :D

and as a follow-up, a low blow - mathematics is the Mother of All Sciences, it is cyclopean and all-encompassing. words, speech - this is an ordered sequence of symbols. symbols, just like the systematization of anything - that's all mathematics.

"An ordered sequence of symbols"... did you fall from the moon? Go ahead, give me a mathematical formula according to which any word of your choice is composed...:D or a theorem of letters?
A word is information shaped in linguistic form...
In the 1993 Guinness Book of Records, "рентгеноэлектрокардиографического" was named the longest word in the Russian language; in the 2003 edition, it was "превысокомногорассмотрительствующий". :D
"Speech is an ordered sequence of symbols"—you know, then I think it's an ordered sequence of SOUNDS!!!

Hmm... (at the end) what a terrible and meaningless example—I expected more from you...
If people refuse to believe in the simplicity of mathematics, it is only because they do not understand all the complexity of life. (John von Neumann)

P.S. "I am a samurai after all" and how is that expressed? How well can you handle a sword? In real life, not in children's simulator games :D ??? just curious ;)