Discussions, post-mortems, analysis, inflated egos, and all that jazz.

I didn't say that manipulation isn't true. Manipulation is manipulation. And you know what that means.

Yes, anyone can be swayed, but the question is, for what purpose? Yes, there was manipulation during the Maidan. But the backstory of the Maidan is not standard. Personally, its emergence came as a surprise to me. There was no informational preparation; people had been grumbling in the corners since 2011, complaining about the "vegetable" [referring to Yanukovych], that the guy had become too arrogant, and I didn't believe that something like this could happen. Even when there were the first clashes after the dispersal and beating of students, I still thought that was it. But people didn't stop coming to the Maidan from all over the country. Moreover, buses were being organized from both sides, but in reality, the "blues" [pro-Yanukovych supporters] were in the absolute minority.

Then everything followed the classic pattern of manipulation – the revolution won, people were promised that everything would be different, and people went home to wait for their expectations to come true. And since everyone has different desires, it never happened.

But in any case, those were good intentions. And the goals of our "brothers" are dark. And the manipulations that were happening then and continue to happen now are dark. And how did you expect things to be – that you would manipulate us, and we would just sit quietly?
That won't work.

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Sales of new passenger cars in 2018.
In Ukraine: 82,248 units, declining, and to top it off – there are queues!!
In Russia: 1,595,737, increasing.
The difference per capita is almost 5 times (ed.)

Is there any point in quoting further? :smile15:

By how much did new car sales fall? If you want to talk in the language of statistics, there is the concept of periods for comparison. Fell from where and to where? Take 5 years and analyze it, or at least 2, so you can say something.
In Ukraine, due to high duties (domestic manufacturers' lobbyists are working), the possibility of buying used cars in Europe and the USA has appeared for several years now. The demand due to lower prices is enormous. In the USA, they buy newer cars, 1-5 years old, which are 30-40 percent cheaper on the market. The demand has shifted from new cars, but this hasn't reduced the number of cars being imported and bought. Put all the imports together and then you can talk.
If you don't understand the issue, why are you getting involved?
What can you even continue to quote? It just irritates me with your scribbles.