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Offline Fragment
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total number of investigators:
journalist, Clara (checks the second status and uses her ultimate ability to check both), Aglaya (checks the second status), Bachelor (checks for negativity), Haruspex (checks for negativity).
Bachelor and Haruspex do this at a great risk (and they might still end up targeting Clara or Albino before that, or an isolated player, so it's not that straightforward). Should they try to identify someone, risking a sudden death from infection, or protect themselves (which is a very important option, as a maniac is targeting these roles)? Not all players might be capable of such altruism. And even if they are, it's still unclear what the outcome will be.

Moving on. You can lie to Saburov, and there's still room for interpretation. Also, his interrogation is at the bottom of the list, so there's a good chance it will be disrupted. Plus, it's not difficult to kill him and the Inquisitor together; he essentially has no way to defend himself. Furthermore, the Mafia has the ability to change status, and not just once. So, again, you're overestimating the effectiveness.

Nevertheless, yes, in theory, the town has many opportunities to gather information. I did it this way to encourage more positional play; otherwise, a couple of votes will be cast against someone, and that player will be executed. I would like the players to always have several candidates for execution, and whether the information is true or false is up to the town to figure out during the day.
another question, I'm writing a priority list for myself. Fragment, please help me arrange these two NIs in the correct positions.
The second NI fits the second position; the first one fits both, depending on the player's choice.
and in case of failure in the newspaper, will the nickname of the player on whom the ultimate ability was used still be displayed?
In any case, only the block and the ultimate ability of the Plague are displayed.

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By the way, if you want, we can make the days 48 hours long. Which would you prefer?
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By the way, if you want, we can make the days last 48 hours. What would you prefer?
No need.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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I agree with Nebo; it's not worth it.
Should one try to identify someone, risking a swift death from infection, or protect oneself (which is a very important option, as the maniac will be preying on these roles)?
The Haruspex can start healing players no earlier than the 4th night (that is, two nights for autopsy, the 3rd night for brewing, and the 4th night for another corpse and distributing the "elephants" – one for himself, one for someone else). Moreover, by the 4th night, it will already be clear who is who, and the Haruspex will simply confirm for himself (and for others, of course) that a certain player is not a member of the Mafia. The Bachelor initially has protection against infection, so he can use his ability from the very first turn. In general, I don't share your optimism regarding the possibility of the Mafia engaging in a "positional game." It will be a typical series of cross-checks, followed by daytime accusations and nighttime blocks based on those results, starting from the 3rd or 4th day. 1. By the way, if the Mor locks himself out of the game, do previously infected players continue to die, get cured, or remain at the same level (e.g., losing the ND and special abilities that were lost the previous night, but nothing is lost this night)? 2. Here's another question. What happens if the Rat Prophet goes to kill the Olghim, and the Olghim redirects all visitors to the Albino? Will the Albino die? Will the Rat Prophet be unable to act on the next night? 3. The Prophet is immune to infection, right? That is, he cannot infect anyone from the Mafia, correct? 4.
Evil Presence – prevents a visitor from acting on the next night.
Here's another test. I don't see how you can explain to a player the absence of his ND at night if he wasn't going to an isolated player (or wasn't isolated himself). Therefore, finding the Albino won't be that difficult. Wouldn't it be easier to change this to infecting the visitor or something less obvious?
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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The Haruspex will be able to heal players no earlier than the 4th night (that is, two nights for the autopsy, the 3rd night for brewing, and the 4th night for another corpse and distributing "elephants" – 1 for himself, 1 for someone else). Moreover, by the 4th night, it will already be clear who is who, and therefore the Haruspex will simply confirm for himself (and for others, of course) that a certain player is not a member of the Mafia.
The Bachelor initially has protection against infection, so he can use his ability from the very first turn.
Depending on the chosen tactics and goals, and of course, the situation, the actions of the Bachelor and the Haruspex can lead to either the victory of the town or its defeat. Here, the question is about risk; personally, I would hardly try to be a hero and put the town at risk, but rather focus on defense.
By the way, the Haruspex's night action is called using an infusion. Not infusions.
In general, I don't share your optimism regarding the possibility of the Mafia playing a "positional game."
The Mafia usually manages this quite well; I am more worried about the town.
1. Yes, by the way, if the Plague leaves the game, do those who were previously infected continue to die, are they cured, or do they remain at the same level (for example, minus the night actions and abilities that were lost the previous night, but nothing is lost this night)?
The Plague leaving the game in this regard only means that there will be no new infecting actions. The effect of the actions already performed remains.
2. And here's another question. What will happen if the Rat Prophet goes to kill the Olghim, and the Olghim redirects all visitors to the Albino? Will the Albino die? Will the Rat Prophet be unable to act on the next night?
The Prophet cannot be redirected.
3. The Prophet is immune to infection, right? That is, he cannot infect anyone from the Mafia, is that correct?
Yes.
And here's another test. I don't see how you can explain to the player the absence of his night action if, at the same time, he was not going to an isolated player (or was not isolated himself). This means that it will not be so difficult to find the Albino. Wouldn't it be easier to change this to infecting a visitor or something less obvious?
Isolation is displayed as a fact, so the player will not be able to say for sure, without additional information, whether he or his target was isolated this night, or whether he visited the Albino the previous night.
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Ult. Sand Angel – infects the target. Ignores immunity. The disease progresses twice as fast.
Does it infect anyone?
The target has a 50% chance to infect anyone it comes into contact with.

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).

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Keep the rat in your pocket. The target infects whoever it comes to during that night. If it doesn't come to anyone, it infects itself.
What if it comes to someone who is immune?

2. I couldn't find anything about voting. Can you vote for NNV, and can you vote for yourself?

3. If the Mafia and the Maniac infect the same person, or if the Maniac infects the same person twice due to redirects, does the disease progress twice as fast? And if there's an active microbe + repeated infection, does it progress even faster?
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Does it infect anyone?
Yes.
Evil Lizard
This is for Ouna! x)
What if it comes to someone who is immune?
Nothing happens.
2. I couldn't find anything about voting. Can you vote for NNV, and can you vote for yourself?
Well, yes, it's the same as usual here.
3. If the Mafia and the Man infect the same person, or if the Man, due to redirects, infects the same person twice, does the disease progress twice as fast? And if an active microbe is added + repeated infection, does it get even faster?
Yes, but the Man doesn't redirect.
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In Mafia 2, there are 2 night actions, one of which is a kill.
Is infection (including "rat in the pocket") considered a killing night action?

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
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Interrogates Saburov
Is this displayed correctly? And what exactly? The interrogated person's nickname? The questions and answers?
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Is infection (including "rat in the pocket") considered to be a killing of a Neutral Creature?
Yes.
Is that displayed? And what exactly? The nickname of the interrogated player? The questions and answers to the questions?
Yes, it is displayed as usual on HeroesWorld, the nickname of the interrogated player, the questions and answers to them in a modified form.
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Write it under 7.
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Shaman, where is your Snowman clone?

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Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
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If the schedule works for me, then I will. Understanding that I can't be available every day, and if those days happen to fall on a specific day... In short, I'll randomly cast my vote. Quenta is the last one remaining, as usual.
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I'm out
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Who should I invite to play? Maybe someone knows about other potential players?
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