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What kind of warriors do you hire when playing as the Faction of Force?
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#196
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I already mentioned one fact...
I haven't seen any real facts yet... it's all just discussion... can someone provide a clear example of what the advantage is? And whether a powerful computer makes a Barbarian stronger or not, I don't think that's the best topic for discussion.
Нет, я же Гитлер.
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#197
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KENNU;97474
I haven't seen any real facts... it's all just discussion... can someone clearly state what the advantage is? And whether a strong computer-controlled Barbarian is good or not, I don't think that's the best topic for discussion.
Well, the topic is still about Barbarians, right? :) Computer-controlled units are rarely strong, only at the beginning; later, when the hero is level 15-20, almost any computer-controlled army can be easily defeated while relaxing with a cup of coffee and a cookie.

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KENNU, the advantage of Barbarians is - NUMBER! That's their main plus.


Барон
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Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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KENNU, read the topic first. Everyone has their own opinion about this. What's a "+", and what's a "-"?
And who and where wrote that it's just... I was actually trying to say the opposite, defending the Barbarians, that if you play against the computer, they are the most annoying...
Sorry, maybe I didn't understand correctly. Well, that means we both agree on this ;)
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#199
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I still underestimated the Barbarians... They are quite powerful after all.
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#200
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OptiMAL;97865
I guess I underestimated the Barbarians... They really are strong.
What brought that on?


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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#201
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ZYbr;97866
What's with that sudden change?
We were playing together... you leveled up your Archer to level 20 and that was it... DEATH....
:D
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#202
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OptiMAL;97877
We played together... you leveled up the Archer to level 20 and that was it... DEATH....
but that was just the way the game was)

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Although the Barbarian would have been just as good).


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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#203
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ZYbr;97866
What brought that on?
I convinced him ;)
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Now there are two of us (Pandora and Optimal) who agree that Barbarians aren't bad!!!
These are my most compelling arguments (considering the authority of these forum users in Heroes of Might and Magic IV)
And where are your facts proving the opposite...?
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#204
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I convinced you ;)
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Now there are two of us (Pandora and Optimal) who agree that Barbarians aren't bad!!!
These are my most compelling arguments (considering the authority of these forum users in Heroes 4)
But where are your facts proving the opposite?
Well, I don't want to argue, I just don't like them.

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The Barbarian hero has no abilities, and any hero can be improved in combat.


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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#205
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ZYbr;97956
Well, I don't want to argue, I just don't like them.
That's right... Alex_R and KENNU are arguing...
the others can take sides...
I understand your opinion... Regarding the fact that the Barbarian doesn't have an ability, that's not true... he has the ability... "the name of this topic";)
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#206
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I don't particularly like the Barbarians either (I used to dislike them even more), but that doesn't negate their fairly good abilities. Objectively, they have them. The problem is that I don't find it interesting to play as them. Because the gameplay is somewhat linear and monotonous. A Barbarian is essentially a lone wolf. And in battle, they are monotonous.
I only see one solution – to level up Scouting, Tactics, or Nobility.

P.S. Alex_R, happy belated birthday!!! :)
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#207
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Alex_R;97960
That’s right… Alex_R and KENNU are arguing…
the rest can take sides…
I understand your opinion… Regarding the fact that the Barbarian doesn’t have an ability, that’s not true… he has an ability… “the name of this topic”;)
Yes, I’ll stick to my opinion, but I won’t argue here, criticizing the Barbarians. For me, their only drawback is the Berserkers; these guys just can’t stay calm, and it can be problematic to go around with only Centaurs…


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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#208
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Yeah, I'll stick to my opinion, but I won't argue here and criticize the Barbarians. For me, their only downside is the Berserkers; these guys just can't stay calm, and it can be problematic to go with only Centaurs...
I see only one option here....
Usually, my hero starts by creating a defensive front.... luckily, it's not a problem to upgrade armor first...
and the hero is enough for defense....
and then :)))))
Мечты сбываются, просто нужно уметь правильно мечтать.

Жизнь нужно прожить так, чтобы Боги в восторге предложили еще одну...
P.S. может мне и предложили, просто я не помню :smile44:
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#209
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To prevent the Berserkers from dying, you need to send the hero and Centaurs into battle as well... otherwise, the Berserkers will all die in the early battles.

Be strong. Believe
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#210
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For a Barbarian hero, going into battle is not a problem. It is his direct duty.

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