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Posts from 2016 Winter Tournament: "Frozen Heart"

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In my opinion, the Swiss system was exactly what was needed. There was enough time to make moves and wait for the slower players, and the intrigue lasted until the very end of the tournament. I personally enjoyed playing, except for the game against GL (which I started in a tense state), who disappeared, and as it turned out today (when I received a bunch of messages for the past week), his ICQ was malfunctioning. My public apologies to Boris for any harsh words in the chat.
There are many drawbacks, both in terms of organization and for the players.
The strict schedule – one game per week – is inconvenient for many.
The dynamic players ruin the whole picture, and there turned out to be quite a few of them.
The number of rounds should be 5-6 with this number of participants, but that's not enough games.
But I've come up with what I think is an optimal scheme for future tournaments; I suggest testing it in the spring!
Kirill, let's discuss it here; I don't think it's worth creating a separate thread for this, especially since we're talking about a related tournament
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I think Will is mainly to blame for the problems here, and that's because our games on Dungeon clashed.
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Alex_nv - draw - Vovan112013 летос 236

alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.
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You say that Will created the problems. (I didn't even play with Will in this tournament.) And I say that the problems were created by those players who registered but didn't play a single game, didn't write a single post in the tournament thread, except for their registration. (That's exactly the kind of players I encountered, but you seem to have been lucky - you didn't cross paths with bot-like players who were just trying to mess with you).
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Congratulations to myself for taking 5th place! :)
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Congratulations to myself on taking 5th place! :)
What if dwp wins? :D
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You say that Will created the problems. (I didn't even play with Will in this tournament.)
And I say that the problems were created by those players who registered but didn't play a single game, didn't write a single post in the tournament thread, except for their registration. (That's exactly the kind of players I encountered, but you seem to have been lucky - you didn't cross paths with bot-like players who were deliberately trying to affect the outcome).
What problems can players who didn't participate in the tournament create? They can't disrupt the schedule of the rounds. They can only lower your Berger rating. And there are no complaints about Will - it's just that his playing time is inconvenient for everyone who works daily. And when 3 games coincided, it created certain problems.
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Alex_nv - draw - Vovan112013 летос 236

alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.
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Ah, yes, then everything is fine, let the bots participate – it doesn't cause any problems, right? )))
Why should I be looking for them? And it's pointless anyway.
I definitely should reserve my personal time to play a tournament game. And when I try to contact a player (and I don't know yet that it's a bot), I make quite a few attempts.
No, you can just send one message to the opponent on ICQ, then one message on the tournament forum, and forget about it. Then yes, then there are no problems.
You couldn't contact GL in some tournament. Did that cause you any problems? I mean, is everything okay? Only your Berger's coefficient would have suffered (if you hadn't played). But GL is a real player; you just had a communication issue, it happens. In the end, you played. You even apologized for your harsh words (but where did those words come from? There are no problems, after all).
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So, GL is a real player; you just had a connection issue. In the end, you played the match. You even apologized for your harsh words (but where would those words come from? There were no problems).
If Boris were a bot, I would have messaged him once, then messaged the judge, and forgotten about this gentleman for the rest of the tournament.
Стримы HMM5 на полных картах мод TE:
ru.twitch.tv/noom11

Alex_nv - draw - Vovan112013 летос 236

alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.
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I've moved, and I'm currently without internet access. It seems relatively quiet here.
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We are waiting for the last match of dmitrik-m777gt to summarize the results.

Who won, Vil or Dex? I'm taking bets!

For the spring tournament, players Eldarmoon and Chernobog are disqualified, Yaghen receives a conditional disqualification; if he does it again, he will be banned from 2 tournaments!
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Who won, Vil or Dex? I'm taking bets)
Vitaly, what do bets have to do with it?! Or are you trying to make some money on a betting site? :D
But seriously, according to the tournament rules, Dexter won.
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Vitaly, what do bets have to do with it?! Or did you decide to make some money on a betting site? :D
But seriously, according to the tournament rules, Dexter won.

Actually, I didn't write this for no reason.
While preliminarily summarizing the results, I encountered some interesting things related to the Buchholz coefficient; we haven't been calculating it correctly until now.
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Actually, I didn't write this for no reason.
While preliminarily summarizing the results, I encountered some interesting things related to the Buchholz coefficient; we haven't been calculating it correctly until now:o
What does Buchholz have to do with it if you specified the Berger rules? :p
Another question is that the Berger system isn't suitable for the Swiss system, but that's a completely different story! :D
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What does Buchholz have to do with it if you specified Berger in the rules? :p
The real question is that Berger doesn't work with the Swiss system, but that's a completely different story! :D
Oh, Kirill) Read points 3 and 13 of the rules carefully!
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I didn't count the points, but I suspect it will turn out to be a complete mess. Even when I got bots that didn't give any points, I realized that if I didn't get lucky (and the person they were matched with also got a bot), there was nothing to be gained. But even that's okay; in the last round, it's almost entirely based on chance. There's a group with a strong player and a weak player, and whoever gets matched with the strong player wins. So, I doubt the objectivity of the evaluation; it seems like everything depends on luck and the judge (who they were matched with).

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