Voting for the location of the CIS-2107 tournament.

MerlinTheMagician

2/8/2017 3:22 PM UTC

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Wicc

There's so much excitement about the price of the King's Bounty game that the vote will be a landslide.

In order for the vote to be a landslide, it is necessary to first hold a vote on the possibility of holding a vote that will result in a landslide.

Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP

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злой_романтик

2/8/2017 3:33 PM UTC

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Noom

I have a request for the organizers (primarily Alex and Frishe): please let me know if they are interested in the following proposal:
Making a prepayment of approximately 20% would give the vote equal weight when voting on the location.

It seems like you'll have the maximum weight anyway.

296524052
Весна 2012.

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Noom

2/8/2017 3:34 PM UTC

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evil_romantic

You'll probably reach the maximum weight limit anyway.

I also have 5 more allies who woke up this year, and not all of them were from the CIS.

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Alex_nv - draw - Vovan112013 летос 236

alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.

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MerlinTheMagician

2/8/2017 3:34 PM UTC

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zloy_romantik

You'll probably have the maximum weight limit anyway.

He wants players with a rating of 5, who haven't participated before, to have the maximum weight limit and decide where the CIS tournament for Heroes of Might and Magic III will be held. What's not clear?

Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP

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Dirty_Player

2/8/2017 3:35 PM UTC

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evil_romantic

It seems like you'll have the maximum weight anyway.

I think PReDS will have the maximum weight:cool:

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MerlinTheMagician

2/8/2017 3:37 PM UTC

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Dirty_Player

I think PReDS will have the highest rating:cool:

Why would that be? Don't offend PReDS! He already has one!

Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP

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злой_романтик

2/8/2017 3:37 PM UTC

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MerlinTheMagician

He wants players who haven't participated before to have the most influence and decide where the CIS tournament for Heroes of Might and Magic III will be held. What's so hard to understand?

Well, I don't play that way :(

296524052
Весна 2012.

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Noom

2/8/2017 3:39 PM UTC

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MerlinTheMagician

He wants players who have never participated before to have the most influence and decide where the CIS tournament for Heroes of Might and Magic III will be held. What's so hard to understand?

Kirill, I wasn't asking you. Go bother someone else in a different thread.

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Alex_nv - draw - Vovan112013 летос 236

alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.

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MerlinTheMagician

2/8/2017 3:41 PM UTC

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zloy_romantik

Well, I don't play that way :(

Why is that? Everything is fair. If you can buy wins in the CIS region, then you can buy votes too... :smile20:

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Noom

Kirill, I wasn't asking you. Go bother someone else.

And I wasn't answering you. Get the moths out of your sweater, or you'll start having hallucinations...

Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP

Alexxl

2/8/2017 4:10 PM UTC

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Sanya, the idea is generally not bad, as it would allow people to express their opinion and have their voice heard. However, there is one BUT: by introducing the option to purchase voting power, we would be treading on very slippery ground... therefore, I am against it. As an example, I initially planned to contribute around 100,000 as a down payment if we chose Volgograd. Imagine I create a poll, and I also pay for the necessary votes to support Volgograd, using those same 100,000 that I initially intended to contribute. In short, this is a path to nowhere. There should be a principle of differentiation, but not based on money.

Приглашаю всех сыграть Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft, мой батлтэг Alexxl#2103, кидайте приглашение, рад буду перекинуться в картишки))

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Noom

2/8/2017 4:19 PM UTC

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Alexxl

The principle of differentiation should exist, but not based on money.

And what criteria should be used? If it's based on the number of visits, then it's essentially the same thing (the number of visits indicates that the person is more likely to attend if they vote for a particular option). I agree that if the votes of players and viewers were weighted differently, it would be better, but in the end, the most significant votes in the Volgograd vote belonged to the viewers.

Alexxl

As an example, I initially planned to contribute around 100k as a down payment if Volgograd was chosen. So, imagine I create a poll, and also pay for the necessary votes for Volgograd with that money, which is exactly the 100k I initially wanted to contribute.

Well, that means you paid for the conference hall and the tournament buy-in, etc., in case the people you paid the 100k for didn't show up. In other words, for everyone who came from the CIS, it became 100k cheaper. I don't see a problem.

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Alex_nv - draw - Vovan112013 летос 236

alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.

Alexxl

2/8/2017 4:38 PM UTC

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I wasn't wrong when I said that this path is slippery and offers a lot of room for manipulation. What I quickly sketched out for you is just what came to mind.
The purpose of the vote is to ensure that those who genuinely want to go and participate in the selection process, rather than people who are glued to their computers, but somehow claim to know everything about every field, and are ready to argue and explain with foam at the mouth how people should spend their money. But when the time comes to actually go, they disappear, don't answer the phone, have work problems, their grandmother gets sick in Kologriv, and so on – you name it.

Приглашаю всех сыграть Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft, мой батлтэг Alexxl#2103, кидайте приглашение, рад буду перекинуться в картишки))

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Noom

2/8/2017 4:50 PM UTC

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Alexxl

The purpose of the vote is to allow those who genuinely want to go to make that choice.

If a person has paid 20% as a down payment, does that mean they really want to go, or do they just have extra money?

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Alex_nv - draw - Vovan112013 летос 236

alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.

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злой_романтик

2/8/2017 4:52 PM UTC

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Noom

If a person has paid 20% upfront, does it mean they really want to go, or do they just have extra money?

Sanya, why are you talking nonsense? If people want to go, let them go; everyone will be happy, but we are not obligated to accommodate them.

296524052
Весна 2012.

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Noom

2/8/2017 4:55 PM UTC

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zloy_romantik

Sanya, why are you talking nonsense? If people want to go, let them go; everyone will be happy, but we are not obliged to cater to them.

And who should they cater to? Not to the players. To iDD with a weight of x20? To Merlin, who gets paid regardless?

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Alex_nv - draw - Vovan112013 летос 236

alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.