Absolute skills — General

Don Vito

6/3/2006 4:49 PM UTC

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Guys, I read the developers' response about this and didn't understand anything. In general, has anyone achieved the ultimate ability at the moment, or is it impossible to do now?

WirgiNWardeN

6/3/2006 7:20 PM UTC

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I'm planning to get the ultimate skill in the Dungeon campaign... maybe it will work out. I think these ultimate skills seem unbalanced. The Sylvan and Necropolis ultimates are just too strong! The Dungeon ultimate is also cool if you develop the summoning skill well, as is the Academy ultimate. But the Haven ultimate seems completely useless – it triples the damage from Watchtower. I honestly haven't even seen how this Watchtower works, but it seems weak. Also, Dungeon has to develop many not very useful skills if it wants to get the ultimate... is it worth it?

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Sergh

6/3/2006 8:07 PM UTC

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WirgiNWardeN

I'm planning to get the ultimate skill in the Inferno campaign... maybe it will work out.
These ultimate skills seem unequal to me. The Sylvan and Necropolis ones are just garbage!:eek:
Inferno also has a cool one, if you develop the summoning skill well,
and so does the Academy.
But the Haven one seems like complete nonsense - it triples the damage from Watch. I honestly haven't even seen how this Watch skill works, but it seems weak.

Why unequal... Haven also has a pretty good bonus... (Watch isn't a bad skill, and TRIPLE Watch...)

Yes, plus, Dungeon has to develop many not very useful skills if it wants to get the ultimate skill... is it worth it?

What do you mean not very useful...
I understand that not everyone takes Machines and Learning, BUT in my opinion, the result is worth it... (double damage, after all...)

Мечты сбываются, просто нужно уметь правильно мечтать.

Жизнь нужно прожить так, чтобы Боги в восторге предложили еще одну...
P.S. может мне и предложили, просто я не помню :smile44:

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WirgiNWardeN

6/3/2006 8:37 PM UTC

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Sergh

Why not equivalent... People also have a pretty good bonus... (supervision isn't a bad thing, and TRIPLE supervision...)

Maybe I just don't know... But if I'm not mistaken, it doesn't deal that much damage... Even if it's triple, can it compare to -7 to morale from the necromancer's wail?

Sergh

What do you mean not very useful...
I understand that not everyone takes machines and training, BUT in my opinion, the result is worth it... (double damage, after all...)

Hmm... so is it really double damage? As far as I understand, only the damage from the chain lightning spell is doubled, meaning instead of max 35%, it becomes 70%.
It might be worth it, but you still have to think about it...

Maybe I was too hasty saying they're not equivalent...:rolleyes: let's just say they're not entirely equivalent.

Don Vito

6/3/2006 10:27 PM UTC

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No, Humans have one of the coolest ones. The Overseer is super strong; we played a hotseat game, and I was getting crushed by the Overseer, and here it's three times stronger. But we won't know for sure until we test everything.

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WirgiNWardeN

6/4/2006 5:15 AM UTC

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Well, I guess I'll just keep quiet then, I don't want to get into something I don't understand... :rolleyes:

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Drizzt

6/4/2006 7:36 AM UTC

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Does anyone know if the Necromancer ultimate ability affects the Elven faction?

Don Vito

6/4/2006 4:13 PM UTC

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Does anyone know if the Necromancer ultimate ability affects the Elven faction?

I don't think so.

Uke-by_HoMM![Zавулон]

6/4/2006 5:15 PM UTC

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In the skill tree, I noticed a fourth-level special ability for all units. However, I haven't seen it in action yet. Maybe it requires leveling up the ultimate ability first?

Добро- Не цель, а средство, Зло- Дорога к цели...
/topic/at/88386/ Анатраилл

Don Vito

6/4/2006 6:45 PM UTC

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In the skill tree, I noticed a fourth-level special ability for all units. But I haven't seen it in action; maybe it requires maxing out the ultimate ability?

No, it appears automatically.

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WirgiNWardeN

6/5/2006 12:27 AM UTC

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Well, I've taken a special artifact a couple of times, and it gives a +1 bonus to the main ability, which allows you to raise it above the expert level. ... It seems like that's the only way to get it.

Don Vito

6/5/2006 12:51 PM UTC

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No, what are you talking about? I always get it anyway, and this is just one more. That's how I see it.

VANDAL

6/5/2006 2:38 PM UTC

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At what level? I'm at level 32 with Faidaen, and it still hasn't appeared.

Ёжик в тумане

6/11/2006 7:30 AM UTC

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Explain to me how to obtain ultimate abilities.

Ёжик в тумане - состояние души.
м/ф "Ёжик в тумане" качать здесь: http://www.basabas.com/blog/page.php?itemid=1584 .

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Андрей

6/11/2006 7:44 AM UTC

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Hedgehog in the Fog

Can you explain how to obtain ultimate abilities?

I would also like to know this. I don't fully understand what we're talking about. All I did was download the skill tree and now I'm trying to level up my heroes based on it. For example, I want the Wizard to get Omniscience, and here are the paths to it: Fundamentals of Sorcery - Secret Knowledge - Counterspell - Shifting Magic - Omniscience... or: Magic Mirror - Shifting Magic - Omniscience...