Attitude towards complete anti-magic! — General

Пандора

6/21/2007 9:50 AM UTC

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The Scroll of Exorcism is found quite often. And if you need magic, it's easier to level up another hero, specifically a mage. Otherwise, all the benefits of the Barbarian will be lost... if he's busy with something else instead of focusing on his main role.

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Zybr

6/21/2007 9:54 AM UTC

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Pandora;97747

The Scroll of Exorcism is found quite often. And if you need magic, it's easier to level up another hero, specifically a mage. Otherwise, all the Barbarian's usefulness will slip through your fingers... if he's busy with something else instead of focusing on spellcasting.

But is a skill required to use it, or are we talking about a one-time use scroll? There are different types of scrolls.)

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Пандора

6/21/2007 9:56 AM UTC

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We're talking about rare... items that you can find in the Mage Tower (if you defeat them). Sometimes, you can find quite a few there. And a teleport and a castle gate – if you're lucky!

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Zybr

6/21/2007 9:58 AM UTC

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Pandora;97752

We're talking about rare items... the kind you can find in the Wizard's Tower (if you defeat them). Sometimes you can find a whole bunch. And a teleport and a castle gate – if you're lucky!

I never get lucky(( I only find one useless item.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Пандора

6/21/2007 10:04 AM UTC

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Well, even seemingly useless things can be helpful... A scroll is a great asset for a Barbarian, in my opinion. Because he doesn't really need much magic. Different scrolls can be used in different battles. Bloodlust, Haste (both are good against neutrals), Exorcism (for example, in the final battle against Haven or Necropolis), and Castle Gate (if, for example, you're fighting for an artifact with 4th-level monsters and realize it's too early to attack).

Scorpion

6/21/2007 2:28 PM UTC

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Being a Barbarian is simple – just attack everyone, but the result isn't as impressive as using various 5th-level spells, right? You're all talking about the Barbarian, but what if there's a battle between two Wizards, and one has full anti-magic? What's the point of magic in that case?

Kamikaze

6/21/2007 3:06 PM UTC

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Complete antimagic in all its forms is extremely harsh. The game suffers from this, but at the same time, it's a very strong strategic move.

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Zybr

6/21/2007 4:18 PM UTC

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Scorpion;97819

Being a Barbarian means just attacking everyone, but the result isn't as impressive as using various 5th-level spells, right? You're all talking about the Barbarian, but what if there's a battle between two Wizards, and one has full anti-magic? What's the point of magic in that case???

Magic is mostly aimed at the army, not the hero. 100% resistance is mainly useful against neutral creatures.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Sergh

6/22/2007 12:00 AM UTC

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Scorpion;97584

Complete anti-magic on the opponent significantly reduces their interest in the battle. Especially when playing a two-player game with a Barbarian.

If it were complete, that would be one thing, but as far as I remember, you can cast positive spells on him... and that's already unfair...

Мечты сбываются, просто нужно уметь правильно мечтать.

Жизнь нужно прожить так, чтобы Боги в восторге предложили еще одну...
P.S. может мне и предложили, просто я не помню :smile44:

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Zybr

6/22/2007 5:27 AM UTC

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Sergh;97932

If it were a complete immunity, that would be one thing, but as far as I remember, you can cast positive spells on it... and that's already unfair...

Why isn't it unfair?! If that weren't the case, any hero could be taken down immediately on the first turn with magic, and the battle would almost be lost. So, 100% resistance is a very good thing; it doesn't worsen anything, but only makes things more challenging.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

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LeSHiJ-MaX

6/22/2007 9:09 AM UTC

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ZYbr;97942

Why is it not unfair?! If this wasn't the case, any hero could be defeated immediately on the first turn with magic, and the entire battle would almost be lost. So, 100% resistance is a very good thing; it doesn't worsen anything, but only makes things more challenging.

If I remember correctly, when antimagic (of nature) is applied, all negative and (which is bad) positive effects are removed from the creature.
+ This creature cannot be healed.
+ Phoenixes do not resurrect.
+ Angels do not revive.
+ and many other bad things:smile01:
P.S. I repeat, if I remember correctly.

С самого начала позаботься о своем месте в жизни, чтобы не уподобиться маятнику. /Херберт. Ф./
Клан: "Смертельный Альянс" - "Mortal Alliance"

Пандора

6/22/2007 9:51 AM UTC

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Well, that's if you cast the Anti-Magic spell on monsters. And ZYbr, as far as I understand, meant a hero with the Resistance skill...
ZYbr, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Zybr

6/22/2007 9:58 AM UTC

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Pandora;97970

Well, that's if you cast the Anti-Magic spell on monsters. And ZYbr, as far as I understand, meant a hero with the Resistance skill...
ZYbr, correct me if I'm wrong.

That's right, Pandora. It's about the ability.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Пандора

6/22/2007 10:21 AM UTC

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Maybe someone can tell me... If a hero has the Resistance ability, can they cast a positive spell on themselves? Or is it the same as with the Anti-Magic spell, where they can't?

LeSHiJ-MaX

6/22/2007 10:33 AM UTC

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ZYbr, if something is wrong, please forgive me, I misunderstood:D

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Pandora;97976

Can anyone tell me... If a hero has the Resistance ability, can they cast a positive spell on themselves? Or is it the same as with the Anti-Magic spell?

The skill grants the ability to resist enemy spells in 100% of cases. Any positive spell cast on health will remain;)

С самого начала позаботься о своем месте в жизни, чтобы не уподобиться маятнику. /Херберт. Ф./
Клан: "Смертельный Альянс" - "Mortal Alliance"