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They gave me free internet – that alone says a lot. And the fact that they couldn't overload the router – you probably know the answer to that.

They gave me free internet – that says a lot. And the fact that they couldn't overload the router – you probably know the answer.

Now, look at the price of the hall in 2015... 25K per day – am I remembering correctly?
I'm saying that back then, you weren't particularly worried about such "overpayments" – although there really was an overpayment on the part of everyone who gathered to listen to your singing "repertoire"... And you didn't take the reasonable suggestions to stop your stupid concert and continued performing... But now, suddenly, you've come to your senses. "Good people, they're ripping me off..."

Want to chat? Give me a call! What are you even talking about? I suggested an idea – let the people decide. And you just keep counting points there, or you'll get confused).

What are you even talking about? I suggested an idea – let the people decide.

I'm talking about the fact that what exactly are you willing to do to organize "quality" streams? Or is this just another throwaway idea like: "Here's an idea – someone do it... but I'm not going to pay extra or do anything myself"?

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In reality, everyone should decide for themselves why they are going to the CIS event. Some go to play Heroes and compete for the Cup. Some go to hang out and relax. Some go to see friends.

The Heroes III Championship is the central event in all these cases, and that's what brings everyone together. And that's why guests, along with the Heroes players, pay for the conference hall. At the same time, good internet is needed not only for broadcasts but also in general, so that everyone can stay "connected" at all times. Some need it for work, others for family reasons. And I find it strange to read phrases about how the Heroes players don't need internet...

As an alternative, you could cover the travel and accommodation expenses for top streamers (if they need it), provided there's some guarantee that they can recoup the costs. In other words, provide an advance. As for the suggestion of taking over the organization of the stream, I'm not knowledgeable in that area. But if a good internet connection is needed for streaming, why can't this issue be resolved in the way I suggested? What's wrong with that? Viewers pay for the venue and internet, and the streamer repays this with their hard work – by playing the game and promoting it to a wider audience.

But if expensive internet is needed for streams, why can't this issue be solved the way I suggested?

You seem to be missing the point. For streams and just for communication in general, you simply need a decent internet connection. But at countryside venues, it is by definition expensive. Because the Wi-Fi, on which you can barely load even a single page of the HeroesWorld forum, is not internet — it's a mockery of it.
Conduct a poll among past participants: whether or not normal internet is needed at the CIS venue. For me, for instance, it is needed because I can be called for work at any moment. And there are plenty of others who can be called for work or other matters.
And phone reception, by the way, is not always reliable at countryside venues (3G and 4G are also not always available accordingly). This is, if you will, the nature of the times. The internet is needed not for streams, but first and foremost for the participants and viewers themselves.

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As an option — you could pay for the travel and accommodation for top streamers (for those who need it), if there is some guarantee that the money can be recouped. Sort of like issuing an advance.

If you find streamers who will give you such guarantees — go ahead: pay up, issue advances...

I decided to put in some effort and provide some statistics because a lot has been said about weather conditions and prices, but there hasn't been any concise analysis yet: 1. Weather. The comparison is based on weather observations and statistics from gismeteo.ru: May 2014: May 2015: May 2016: As you can see, no one here freezes, and there are no extreme sub-zero temperatures. To make it clear, almost everyone changes their tires around mid-April at the latest. Further, when considering the total cost, we get an interesting picture. No one has compiled summary analytics for the cheapest accommodation option, but here it is: Yekaterinburg: Accommodation (breakfast included) + Meals (lunch, dinner) + conference room fee + tournament participation: 900*7=6300; 900*7=6300; 1000; 3000; Total: 16600 rubles. Volgograd: Accommodation (breakfast included) + Meals (lunch, dinner) + conference room fee + banquet + tournament participation: 9600; 700*7=4900; 3500; 2500; 3000; Total: 23500 rubles. These figures were collected based on a full board basis and presented for general understanding.

Kirill, I think you're not quite understanding. I am able to pay for the services. I also need a good internet connection. I suggested an idea to reduce the cost of the trip for those for whom the price is too high. This is in everyone's best interest.

I decided to put in some effort and provide some statistics, as a lot has been said about weather conditions and prices, but there hasn't been a concise analysis...

Alternative source - Yekaterinburg-2016.
https://ekaterinburg.nuipogoda.ru/%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9-2016
Another one.
http://ekaterinburg.ya-pogoda.ru/pogoda/may-2016/
And another one.
http://weatherarchive.ru/Temperature/Ekaterinburg/May-2016
And here, everything is shown by the hour.
http://www.eurometeo.ru/russia/sverdlovskaya-oblast/ekaterinburg/archive/201605/

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Kirill, I think you're not understanding something. I can afford to pay for the services. I also need good internet.

Well, personally, I don't care how many people the stream will attract. But I will definitely have to pay for it, as will my wife. And I'm not the only one who thinks this way, I'm sure.

So, make up your mind. Do you need good internet or not?
First, you say you don't need good internet, then you say you do. And at the same time, you suggest that some mythical person pay for the streamers' expenses for future streams from the CIS... Who is this mythical person with a mythical bottomless bag of gold who will pay?
And let's move this pointless dialogue (if we continue it) to the appropriate topics. Or raise the issue of reducing the budget when the venue is determined. Because right now, we have two options to choose from. Each has presented their proposal. With their approximate budget. Of course, the organizers will continue to look for ways to reduce the price.

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Volgograd: Accommodation (breakfast included) + Meals (lunch, dinner) + conference hall fee + banquet + participation in the tournament:
9600; 700*7=4900; 3500; 2500; 3000;
Total: 23500 rubles.

Not quite. The banquet actually costs 1800, if I understand correctly. The fee for the hall itself will be around 3000 (with the standard rule of not charging for girls and with 40+ guests, of which there will be about five girls, and even that is doubtful).
In Volgograd, there is an option for additional accommodation by adding a Euro-folding bed, for which there is no extra charge. Accordingly, more budget-friendly options can be organized. In Yekaterinburg, this is not stated.

However, the price in Volgograd is relatively higher, as I already wrote. But the initial impression of the quality is also an order of magnitude higher in Volgograd. Just compare the football fields...
Here is the Volgograd option for the same basic 1000 per hour (excluding a 25% discount on all additional services) -

And this topic was created not for comparison. But for voting. Because if we compare budget accommodation options, then we need to illustrate them: Yekb - this is 5-6 people per room, Vlg - this is 2-3 people per room...

For now, the voting looks like this: in Yekaterinburg, we should run a tournament with five players, and in Volgograd, with three :D

I would like to watch the tournament with five players, taking advantage of the opportunity, without interrupting the tournament match with three players. This is a plus – you pay for one tournament, and you can watch two at the same time!!!

Kirill, what’s the status of the preliminary version? There are 3 days left.

Kirill, what's the status of the preliminary results? There are 3 days left.

Korolev is in the lead... (and don't ask me how!..)
I mean, Vigo called me the other day and asked: why did you start the voting so early? And could I add Korolev to the list of applicants?..
In reality, there is no application from Korolev on the forum yet...

Kirill, what's the status of the preliminary round? There are 3 days left.

18 vs 15, or has the idea of using "lesser humans" been officially approved? And by the way, who exactly?

18 vs 15, or has this idea about the "lesser humans" been recognized as legitimate? And by the way, who exactly?

Choose your expressions. The voting conditions were announced in advance. The conditions are transparent, and their basis is a clear, objective criterion for comparing the value of each vote. And the point is that the target audience of the CIS region should decide how and where the CIS competition is held.
Don't you agree that when a bunch of unknowns (and by unknowns, I mean those who have never participated) decide where the CIS competition for Heroes 3 will be held, that's not right?

No, no, everything makes sense, I take back what I said.